Remington and local dealers

MudRunner2005 said:
That's very simple... Because everybody loves to b**** on the Internet, more than they love to talk about the things that work like they're supposed to. And alot (not all) of those are hear-say and 2nd and 3rd-hand BS from someone's dad's sister's cousin's uncle's former roommate...

But of course I'm wrong, because if it's on the Internet or said by a big box store employee it HAS to be true...Right? :rolleyes:
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You do make a great point as always Mud:D I'm not talking about anything other than actual input from owners (much like you with that weatherby):rolleyes: don't matter if it's a $400 Remington or a $4000 AI, issues can be an unfortunate reality and that's a gamble you take with factory produced well... Anything:D have a great night Mud!
 
7mmShooter said:
You do make a great point as always Mud:D I'm not talking about anything other than actual input from owners (much like you with that weatherby):rolleyes: don't matter if it's a $400 Remington or a $4000 AI, issues can be an unfortunate reality and that's a gamble you take with factory produced well... Anything:D have a great night Mud!
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I'm definitely not saying they're 100% perfect... They do have flaws. Everything will. Anything man-made and mass-produced will eventually fail, or has the potential to be flawed.

Yep, I have done my fair share of praising, and cursing that **** Weatherby over the years. It's been gone for a year and a half, and I still don't miss that curse one bit. I can understand first-hand how someone can be disappointed in their purchase. It's a bit of a stretch (in my opinion) to compare a $400 ADL rifle that won't shoot to a $2000 semi-custom rifle that won't shoot, but that also could be dependent on the budget someone has to spend as to how important that pricetag becomes. So you are correct, they are both a lemon, just the same, regardless of price.
 
Simple solution...no gunships conform to these "wall street" bankers who now own it... Don't by anything made by them, corporate scoundrels ! Money talks in their world- nothing else matters !!
 
Maybe, Savage will buy out Remington then you would have the perfect firearm, ain't it or no.
 
morning, look what happened to reloading supplies. is the same thing happening

to rem. does rem still have a custom shop?? r rifles sold in $100K batches? if so

seems like good business to pay for what u get? for instance, look at the auto

sales industries?? very bad for shooters. comes to the point.

comes down to build ur own. I have used 721 actions for many years.lightbulb
 
It just seemed unbelievable to me. It was said to me that it was some sort of power move by Remington. That they have been acquiring several other companies to become the big dog and forcing small companies to conform to them or get left out. As 6X6 said our local store has been around for a long time and is healthy, specially in the gun dept. Sounds like they are playing dirty.

Steve
 
I agree with Frank, small shops don't fit the business model. You can go to WalMart and buy that black plastic 'thing' for $377 + sales tax. Wholesale prices (for FFL holders) is a lot higher. WalMart may not have the higher end of the Remington line in stock, but I'd bet it could be ordered if you have time to wait. Then, you've got Cabellas, Sportsmans Warehouse, Dicks Sporting Goods, and all the other big box retailers. I don't venture in to those stores, but I'd bet I couldn't buy wholesale for what many firearms they stock sell for. And the on-line retailers sell for a discount, too. No store front to maintain. The point is, these large companies have the financial backing to make $100,000 + purchases from manufactures. It's not about business relationships that may have exisited for years (maybe decades), it's about the bottom line. Everything is priced on "volume",,,,,,, "how many $$ do you spend buying what we make, and how quickly do we get paid"?". The more spent, the lower the cost per item. The shooting sports have moved into the realm of "big business", if you haven't noticed. It works the same way for the semi-custom stuff many want, also. (many barrel makers, synthetic stock makers, bottom metal, some custom actions,, you name it!)
 
Human nature seems to be one sour interaction with a manufacturer is enough to swear off any future business with that manufacturer.

I had a Rem 870 12ga 3" magnum shotgun that wouldn't eject Remington Peters 3" Magnum shot shells. The mouth of the fired shells was too long to clear the ejection port. After showing my gun to the local gunsmith, I sent it off to Remington.

They told me to pound nails. Said they didn't make those shells and to find some other shells to shoot through the shotgun. Told them the shells were Remington Peters. Didn't matter. There was no easy fix for my shotgun. The ejector would have needed to have been set back in the receiver in order for the empty hulls to clear the ejection port. Too much time and money lost for Remington to take care of their problem.

I sold that 870 and moved on. Only Remingtons I've ever considered purchasing after that single experience were used guns - that had been blueprinted by a gunsmith. I did buy one used Versa Max. Which seems like a nice shotgun. I will never directly put money into the Remington coffers for the rest of my life, by purchasing a new firearm that's made/sold by Remington.

So goes human nature. I still complain about my single experience with Remington's customer service department...
 
Probably don't know what I'm talking about but... I thought all small business retail gun shops buy their guns from wholesale distributors and those distributors set the credit terms they are willing to provide. I know that every time I have made a special order for a gun from a local shop, they contact several different distributors to get the particular gun I ordered. Now I sure Walmart works differently, but I don't think many local retail stores but directly from the manufacturer.
 
Barrelnut said:
Probably don't know what I'm talking about but... I thought all small business retail gun shops buy their guns from wholesale distributors and those distributors set the credit terms they are willing to provide. I know that every time I have made a special order for a gun from a local shop, they contact several different distributors to get the particular gun I ordered. Now I sure Walmart works differently, but I don't think many local retail stores but directly from the manufacturer.
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No clue on Walmart, but that's how it went when I ordered my SPS LH from my local Gander Mountain.
 
I believe its that Remington is just following what many of the gun manufacturers are doing. Ask your local small shop about Colt, Berreta, Browning, Benelli. It dont think it has anything to do with their situation. This is really nothing new. Everything is really geared to favor the big box stores over the smaller shops. My father owns a small gun shop, glad the OP is going to the small guys!
 
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