Fact is, most people aren't qualified to evaluate a pop tart
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Wait a second mister, I have references, where's this pop tart evaluation going on and where do I send my resume?
Fact is, most people aren't qualified to evaluate a pop tart
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Wait a second mister, I have references, where's this pop tart evaluation going on and where do I send my resume?
I haven't experienced this. I think it was only the 315M that folks were seeing affected, and only in the presence of a faulty ring with in excess of 25 in/lbs of force. This issue was created due to faulty rings (mostly) and rings with odd design features (in part) which in combination put strange pressures on the scope tubes. Essentially clamping the scope tube and bending it out of round in very specific places. These types of rings are an issue with nearly every scope made, though very few want to acknowledge it.Orkan - I have no direct experience with TT scopes. I've heard many reports of great performance and near unparalleled glass quality. However, the reports on ring torque specs has caused me some concerns. It would seem to introduce a greater likelihood of the scope shifting in rings, if there was an impact on the scope. Can you shed some light on this for me?
Tangent Theta has the most sophisticated rifle optics testing equipment I've ever seen. Some of it is so specialized they don't show anyone what it is.
When Mr. Throw Your Rifle On The Ground said tangent theta's failed his testing, I had a ton of people asking about it. I just sent them some of the videos Armament has released on how they validate their scopes.
I have so many Tangent Thetas that I'd have to go count them all to know. Old ones, new ones, and everything in between. None have ever given me a lick of problem, on anything. That's saying something, considering the standard I demand is higher than most anyone. Yet TT doesn't have every use case covered. Sometimes you have to go somewhere else. I had to buy a couple leupold 2.5-10 FFP's here just the other day. Needed a super short super light scope with locked/capped turrets to beat around.
Fact is, most people aren't qualified to evaluate a pop tart, and they certainly don't shoot enough to quantify where rifle scopes fit in a hierarchy. Yet the only way you know, is to buy, and use... heavily.
I'll know if these leupolds don't hold up. You can count on that.
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Geez you Form followers act like he's the only guy on the planet that shoots "pallets" of ammo per year.The difference is "Mr. throw your rifle on the ground" doesn't sell scopes and you do. His tests are for scope buyers to make an informed decision. They are based on his experience shooting pallets of ammo and seeing the same scopes fail over and over. The drop tests mimic prolonged effects of recoil. The opinions of manufacturers and their agents quite naturally need to be looked at for what they are. As Ronald Reagan said "trust , but verify"
No... but he is THE ONLY one I know of that takes the time to photograph, document, and write about his findings over a long period of time... sometimes a year spent with that optic.Geez you Form followers act like he's the only guy on the planet that shoots "pallets" of ammo per year.
I wouldn't lose any sleep at night over the TT test, after he did that test someone on that forum did the same test with their own TT and it passed with flying colors.
He might have just gotten the one bad scope.
He also got the target reticle and complained about it despite TT having a really good hunting reticle in that scope, idk what that is all about.
You are probably right, it's just without that added context it puts an even worse taste in peoples mouth when they read the review and it doesn't actually mean anything because TT has hunting reticles.He tests what's available to him. People loan or donate those scopes for testing.
If I am spending money, reticle and turrets will be chosen by me.
If you read the reviews, he states where each scope comes from and who paid for it. If someone loans him a scope to review and he doesn't care for the reticle would you rather he just lied and said he liked it?You are probably right, it's just without that added context it puts an even worse taste in peoples mouth when they read the review and it doesn't actually mean anything because TT has hunting reticles.
He doesn't have to lie, he could just add context that TT has better reticles for hunting and that particular one isn't for hunting.If you read the reviews, he states where each scope comes from and who paid for it. If someone loans him a scope to review and he doesn't care for the reticle would you rather he just lied and said he liked it?