question about matrix bullets in 270

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  1. Idaho Trecker

    Idaho Trecker Well-Known Member

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    I was wondering if anyone out there has shot their 165 grain vld in a 1:10 barrel and had luck or if it is just to slow. I see their website recommends a 1:9 so I'm just seeing if anyone has some real world experience and had success with the 1:10.
     
  2. elkaholic

    elkaholic Well-Known Member

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    Bigngreen has had good success with the 165's on elk but not sure what twist he has? I would guess it is a 10 though......Rich
     
  3. bigngreen

    bigngreen Well-Known Member

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    I've shot thousands of the 165's through a 1-10 twist barrel, quite a few 175's as well. My elevation 5600+ which gives me more stability. Even our 270 Wins will run them fine.
     
  4. Idaho Trecker

    Idaho Trecker Well-Known Member

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    bigngreen that is great to hear. I guess i will have to give them a try if i can get my hands on some extra cash. I am only sitting about 3000 feet elevation but i guess thats better than sea level.

    Is there any chance someone could post some loads to start at or pm them to me?

    thanks for the input
     
  5. FEENIX

    FEENIX Well-Known Member

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    I have experience with 165s but mine is off .270 AI, 1:8, and 30". Anyways, check this >>> http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f17/165-gr-vld-270-winchester-73897/; there's some load recipe that you can start with.

    I vaguely remember that there's a LRH member having good success with 1:10 at sea level but cannot remember which thread ... perhaps Rhian does.

    Good luck!

    Ed

    ADDED: Found it, see #27 of >>> http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f17/load-work-ruger-270-win-elk-92326/index4.html
     
  6. Idaho Trecker

    Idaho Trecker Well-Known Member

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    Thanks guys. I appreciate the info.
     
  7. Shane Lindsey

    Shane Lindsey Well-Known Member

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    I tried the 165's in a Sendero w/ a 26 inch barrel and one day they would shoot extremely well- Cold/rainy/sea level in Ca. The next day I went out it was warmer/sunny shot barely worth reloading.

    175's would not group at all. They wouldn't stabilize.

    I got so frustrated I sent the rest of them to Rhian as he was having success with them.

    I am in the mood to buy a new rifle (300 WM), but I also have thoughts of a new barrel with a 9 twist to continue my love affair with the 270. They are so nice to shoot and I am not a fan of the brake-these pills give you the extra umph needed...

    Shane
     
  8. elkaholic

    elkaholic Well-Known Member

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    Hi Shane.......a .270 Sherman should get you 3000'. .........Rich
     
  9. Idaho Trecker

    Idaho Trecker Well-Known Member

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    does anybody know if there is anywhere to order matrix bullets other than direct through the company. I dont want to get alot if they may not shoot and it gets kinda expensive for a box or two once shipping is added for this broke recent college grad
     
  10. Shane Lindsey

    Shane Lindsey Well-Known Member

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    Call and ask them. When I ordered the 165s they sent me (25) of the 175's to see if I could get them to shoot.
    It's worth a shot...

    For those shooting the 1:9 twist, where did you get your barrels? I have enquired and only Hart (3) month wait and Krieger (6) month wait will do them.

    Shane
     
  11. elkaholic

    elkaholic Well-Known Member

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    Shane.....try Benchmark......Rich
     
  12. carpetman2

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    Hey BignGreen, You have probably gotten too many questions on these, but hey you're knowledgeable. Anyway, I have a Vanguard series 2 in 270wsm and have been using the Berger 140's and am interested in moving up to the matrix 165's. The twist in this factory rig is 1-10 @ 24" and no muzzle brake. I can shoot 1/2moa with the 140 bergers, and I see you shoot the 165's in a similar twist rate and they stabilize fine. Can you share your load data? I have RL 17 & 22, H1000 and IMR4831. I use Norma cases and either Fed M215 or CCI250. You can PM me if you would prefer. Thanks again. Chris