New "to me" made in Montana monolithic bullets ...

:mad:MG! Why does it always turn into a ****ing contest unnecessarily?

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asd9055 said:
W.E. Demming is attributed to have said "In God we trust. All others must bring data". However, having spend 25 years in gathering and analyzing data, I know there can be bias in every step.

I also learned one other lesson. I don't have to perform an experiment my self in order to benefit from the outcome. I can learn from other's and it is a whole lot cheaper. Example in hand, this forum. I learn something everyday without performing any experiments.

What I am trying to say is we have choices. We can accept, question, perform our own, or ignore!

Great to have choices! Much better than the alternative!!!

Have a Great Sunday all...and if anyone needs company on a hunt...I am available....just can't carry too much, but can walk all day....
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100%.
 
And all over a little piece of copper, hell I would not argue over a $20 bill now principle is a different story. And its hard to have an opinion about a product you have never tried.
 
ButterBean said:
Do you shoot 800 rounds a year hunting ? If not your comment is irrelevant
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That wasn't the point of my comment. The comment was made on people complaining about price of bullets. I was simply illustrating why people wouldnt shoot an expensive bullet. And also, my comment is 100% relevant. I practice to make myself a better shooter. I enjoy the challenge, and I owe it to the game Im shooting at. Are you saying practice is irrelevant?
 
Creedmoor shooter said:
I shoot a minimum of 800 rounds of center fire every year(6mm creed, 6.5 creed,7mm rem mag). Each year that number grows. Especially in my competition rifle. Let's just say I was to only shoot hammers at $1.25 a bullet. My normal bullet of choice is a Eld or a berger. Average of around 40 cents a piece. (At least of all the current bullets I have on hand) In just one year, the price difference is 680 dollars. In 2 years I can pay for a brand new chassis with that money I saved. Or I can use that same money to buy more components so I can shoot more. I dont know about everyone else but I just can't afford to shoot a bullet that costs 1.25 a piece that much. Shooting any less takes away from my ability to being a better shooter. If your a guy that only shoots a 100-200 a year, or you've got money coming out your ears, then go for it.
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No reason to shoot one bullet for everything.

Overall, Bergers are very accurate. Some of us use 'em for hunting because the ones used have a history of effective terminal performance. Some Sierra, Nosler and other mfr's bullets have proved they possess a combination of desirable qualities appropriate for competition, hunting, both or even just plinking. Those qualities include accuracy, terminal performance AND cost; maybe other factors - today including availability, load data and possibly other factors important to particular shooters.

If a given poster is mainly a hunter they may shoot a few hundred bullets a year (or less) while spending thousands of dollars on hunting (travel, guides, license / points, leases, taxidermist, etc.). For them, $1 or more / bullet fired is insignificant.

For you, not so much. And that's perfectly OK as you're doing what works for you and nobody is making you choose otherwise. We have a bewildering array of options in toothpaste, bullets, firearms, vehicles, breakfast cereal and many other things. Beats the heck out of pre-breakup USSR.

I'm glad of it for all of us. My only peeve is that Murphy seems at work: Soon as I find a product I really like and would buy forever, the Universe laughs and it's discontinued.

I know I'm not alone in this. ;~(
 
SWHandldr said:
No reason to shoot one bullet for everything.

Overall, Bergers are very accurate. Some of us use 'em for hunting because the ones used have a history of effective terminal performance. Some Sierra, Nosler and other mfr's bullets have proved they possess a combination of desirable qualities appropriate for competition, hunting, both or even just plinking. Those qualities include accuracy, terminal performance AND cost; maybe other factors - today including availability, load data and possibly other factors important to particular shooters.

If a given poster is mainly a hunter they may shoot a few hundred bullets a year (or less) while spending thousands of dollars on hunting (travel, guides, license / draws, taxidermist, etc.). For them, $1 or more / bullet fired is insignificant.

For you, not so much. And that's perfectly OK as you're doing what works for you and nobody is making you choose otherwise. We have a bewildering array of options in toothpaste, bullets, firearms, vehicles, breakfast cereal and many other things. Beats the heck out of pre-breakup USSR.

I'm glad of it for all of us. My only peeve is that Murphy seems at work: Soon as I find a product I really like and would buy forever, the Universe laughs and it's discontinued.

I know I'm not alone in this....
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I understand that. I wasn't saying that wasnt true. I was simply saying there are other people out in the world that shoot more than a box of shells a year.
 

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