Carbon wrapped barrels?

Discussion in 'Rifles, Bullets, Barrels & Ballistics' started by Nicholas, Mar 2, 2002.

  1. Nicholas

    Nicholas Well-Known Member

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    Has anyone ever used one of these barrels? They sound very impressive. How does their accuracy capability compare to Stainless match barrels? Any experience with them?
     
  2. Len Backus

    Len Backus Administrator Staff Member

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    First let me stress that I do not have the definitive answer on this one. However, I have had Christenson Arms' carbon-fiber wrapped barrels on 2 of my guns. It is not a carbon barrel, rather it is a barrel, turned down on a lathe to small diameter, wrapped in carbon fiber. They use Shillen, stainless match (but not premium-match)if I remember right. Neither one would shoot 1/2 MOA groups so I replaced them. (Plus I needed a faster twist by then for shooting a different bullet). One was on a Tikka action and the other on a Sako 75 action. My rifle-smith who replaced the barrels said it looked like the gunsmiths at CA did not know how to properly true the actions and in the case of the Sako 75 did not even attempt to lap the 3 lugs. When I asked the CA people about the Sako lugs they said because there were 3 it couldn't be done. Wrong. Iy just takes more time and care.

    Anyway, I don't feel the barrel (inside where it counts) heats up any more slowly than an unwrapped barrel. This has been one of CA's claims. I don't have any scientific evidence to prove my opinion.

    Bottom line is if you want a light-weight rifle to carry and shoot good (in my case 3/4 MOA or so) but not great, go with it. Although, perhaps if you stick with one of the actions they are more familiar with the rifle will achieve their 1/2 MOA stated accuracy goal.

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  3. Ian M

    Ian M Well-Known Member

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    Makes a rifle handle like a damn shotgun! Ones that I have shot were only so-so for accuracy. Other than that they are probably a great idea, right up there with cryo, moly, stainless steel barrels in camo stocks and electronic ignition...
    Have a nice day, eh.
     
  4. Nicholas

    Nicholas Well-Known Member

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    Sounds like carbon wrapped barrels aren't up to par with the Stainless barrels. I was thinking that you could make a very long barrel 34+ inch barrel without all the extra weight of a stainless barrel. But, it would not be worth it if I lost accuracy.
     
  5. Len Backus

    Len Backus Administrator Staff Member

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    Ian

    "Have a nice day, eh."

    Let me hear you pronounce the word "out". That's how I can tell if someone is really from Canada.
     
  6. Ian M

    Ian M Well-Known Member

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    Len,
    You think we talk strange - my buddy from Arkansa's nickname is "Bear" - that is with two, sometimes three sylables.
     
  7. Ronski

    Ronski New Member

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    For Len Bachus:

    Len, for what it's worth, not all Canajuns talk the way you suggest. I hope to heck I don't say "oot and aboot" or end all my sentences with eh?

    Nor do all Americans shoot "Baar" instead of Bear. At least not all the Americans I have contact with. and even if we all did or you all did, so what - eh?

    Ron Wilson [​IMG]
     
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    moosehunter Well-Known Member

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    I think all those geographic ideosincrecies,(did I spell that right), are what makes us a unique and interesting peoples. So pass the back bacon, have a Canadian beer and enjoy hoser, eh?
     
  9. cronhelm

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    Gawd! It paines me to think that Bob and Doug MacKenzie are our national representatives!

    Don't make me post the pictures from my Beaver hunting trip. [​IMG]

    Peter Cronhelm
     
  10. Mysticplayer

    Mysticplayer Writers Guild

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    Nice to see you are still on this board. Still thinking of coming out to BC for your Black powder shoot and long range plinking?

    Let me know when you are coming out. Maybe we can get together. Got a Wild so can range as far as we can see...almost.

    Installed a Tasco SS on my 300 Weatherby and 308 Win. So a mile or more should be in order, at least for the Weatherby. Still developing a load for the 308. Hope to get it dialed in soon.

    Take care...

    Jerry Teo