bushing die set ?

[fisherman983]

so ive never used a fancy set of dies. and maybe I don't need to but I want to wring out any extra accuracy and make my handloads as absolutely perfect and consistent as possible.

what bushing die set should I go with and why? school me as I don't know much about them. I was looking at the redding type s 3 die set with competition seater.

will be for a 264 win mag

 

[Mikecr]

The 3-die set will work fine.
But for that cartridge you will have to size the body every time. So you could save a little money and consider a FL bushing die. TYPE S MATCH BUSHING FULL DIE SETS | Sinclair Intl
This is a misnomer in that FL dies do just that with sizing (including FL of necks). What the linked die should be called is a body-bushing die. This combining 2 of the dies in their 3 die set.

 

[fisherman983]

Here's probably a stupid question but why would I need to resize the case every time?..why couldn't I just neck size?

 

[Mikecr]

The cartridge is not designed for accuracy, nor providing longevity in either the brass or barrel.
It's designed to create a big flash & boom.

But more directly, 25deg shoulders will have to be bumped. And it's a long case with a lot of body area, so you'll be sizing bodies once extraction gets difficult.
This is my opinion; I think you'll need to body size/shoulder bump, and that partial neck sizing with a bushing is a good idea.
I do not think you can get away with neck sizing only -for a 264wm.

 

[Outlaw6.0]

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I do not think you can get away with neck sizing only -for a 264wm.

Oh you probably can, the question is for how long? And/or why bother? I can't see any reason to exclude sizing the case with each reload, with the die properly set of course to eliminate excessive sizing.

I fiddled with neck sizing only a few times. I don't do that anymore....

As far as bushing dies go, I've had good luck with FL bushing dies from:

Redding
Forster
Whidden


OP- I'd listen to what Mike is telling you. I have a feeling he knows what he's talking about.



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[fisherman983]

okay so next question...ive been using a hornady die, set to what I believe is partial neck sizing, and ive set up most of my rcbs dies to what I believe is partial neck size for several different calibers...when I make the switch to using a redding die set with neck bushing and full length sizing as you are recommending, do I need to redevelop my load?

 

[Mikecr]

I don't know.
The only way to predict this would be in measurement of H20 capacities among different sized case forms, and then run the numbers in QuickLoad software.

 

[85grNBTat3500fps]

you could also look into the redding body die. It is designed to size the case body a small amount to get the rounds to chamber without overworking the casing like a full length sizing die does. I have one for my ruger m77 VT in 6mmPPC. I have the competition 3 dies set that has a micrometer bushing neck sizer a micrometer seating die and a body die.