cohunt
Well-Known Member
So I have a question about berger bullets for hunting
I am not a berger basher as I've only tried 1 of their bullets in 1 of my guns (130 vld Hunter in my 270 win rem 700) so I feel I don't have enough info and testing to denounce them--BUT no matter what I did I could not get that bullet to shoot in my 270w rifle--this rifle shoots 130's 140's and 150's from the nosler brand bullets lights out, easy to find the accuracy node, but I could not find a good node with those bergers.
My other experience with bergers is my buddy did a test with the same 130 vld hunter in his 270 win tikka t3 lite at 3100 fps mv--he was able to find an accuracy node BUT his testing showed the bullets wanted to yaw and tumble on impact and NOT brake up on impact--- he tested at 100y, 200y, & 300y and he used 3 types of media : dry newspapers, wet newspapers, and ballistic gel and every time the bullet yawed and tumbled and did not brake up.
I see LOTS of people here using them so I wanted to hear your opinion on hunting effectiveness (good or bad so I have both sides of the story)
I'm thinking of trying them in my 7rem mag and was wondering if 1 was better than the other (since I only have experience with the vld hunter) "VLD hunter vs Elite Hunter"--my buddy called Berger and they told him all the hunting bullets used the same jacket thickness and construction.
the 3 options I have for my rifle/twist rate would be the 168 VLD Hunter, the 175 Elite Hunter, and the 180 VLD Hunter (1:9 twist)
What is the minimum expansion speed for these bullets?
What is your real world experience with them on animals? (since my buddy only tested media not flesh)-- good or bad, what were the results, calculated speed on impact, and distance of impact
When I did try the 130 VLD Hunter in my 270win, I did read and try the suggested seating depth procedure and could not get good accuracy results---any pointers if I do try them in my 7 mag?
[for reference my mag allows me to seat out to 3.375-3.38" and the 162 eld-x (similar weight high BC bullet for comparison) hits lands in this gun at 3.4" and has a decent accuracy node for the 162 eldx at 3.345"]
I'm not trying to start any bullet brand wars here, just looking for real world effectiveness and pointers for finding the accuracy node
I am not a berger basher as I've only tried 1 of their bullets in 1 of my guns (130 vld Hunter in my 270 win rem 700) so I feel I don't have enough info and testing to denounce them--BUT no matter what I did I could not get that bullet to shoot in my 270w rifle--this rifle shoots 130's 140's and 150's from the nosler brand bullets lights out, easy to find the accuracy node, but I could not find a good node with those bergers.
My other experience with bergers is my buddy did a test with the same 130 vld hunter in his 270 win tikka t3 lite at 3100 fps mv--he was able to find an accuracy node BUT his testing showed the bullets wanted to yaw and tumble on impact and NOT brake up on impact--- he tested at 100y, 200y, & 300y and he used 3 types of media : dry newspapers, wet newspapers, and ballistic gel and every time the bullet yawed and tumbled and did not brake up.
I see LOTS of people here using them so I wanted to hear your opinion on hunting effectiveness (good or bad so I have both sides of the story)
I'm thinking of trying them in my 7rem mag and was wondering if 1 was better than the other (since I only have experience with the vld hunter) "VLD hunter vs Elite Hunter"--my buddy called Berger and they told him all the hunting bullets used the same jacket thickness and construction.
the 3 options I have for my rifle/twist rate would be the 168 VLD Hunter, the 175 Elite Hunter, and the 180 VLD Hunter (1:9 twist)
What is the minimum expansion speed for these bullets?
What is your real world experience with them on animals? (since my buddy only tested media not flesh)-- good or bad, what were the results, calculated speed on impact, and distance of impact
When I did try the 130 VLD Hunter in my 270win, I did read and try the suggested seating depth procedure and could not get good accuracy results---any pointers if I do try them in my 7 mag?
[for reference my mag allows me to seat out to 3.375-3.38" and the 162 eld-x (similar weight high BC bullet for comparison) hits lands in this gun at 3.4" and has a decent accuracy node for the 162 eldx at 3.345"]
I'm not trying to start any bullet brand wars here, just looking for real world effectiveness and pointers for finding the accuracy node