AR-10 or M&P.300 WHISPER ???????

[bigbuck]

I cannot decide so maybe you guys can help me out . I want a AR that I can shoot out to 800 or 1000 Yards accurately like a bolt gun so what do I need ?
Thanks I dont know much at all about these kinds of rifles but I know I am fixing to own one

 

[ICANHITHIMMAN]

I cannot decide so maybe you guys can help me out . I want a AR that I can shoot out to 800 or 1000 Yards accurately like a bolt gun so what do I need ?
Thanks I dont know much at all about these kinds of rifles but I know I am fixing to own one

300 whisper will not do it. The Armilite corporation has a trademark on the name AR10 so it only refers to that maker. This is important to note as there is not substandard in the larger ar pattern variants, ie, the parts are not all interchangeable.

Depending on your budget, I would suggest Knights armament, LMT

 

[B4Dan]

The whisper has the ballistics of a 30-30, put a can on it and it will cycle sub sonic ammo, not designed for LR. Go with an AR10, or look around for an Springfield that's had some work done.

 

[ICANHITHIMMAN]

The whisper has the ballistics of a 30-30, put a can on it and it will cycle sub sonic ammo, not designed for LR. Go with an AR10, or look around for an Springfield that's had some work done.

Springfield Armory never made an AR pattern rifle

 

[MudRunner2005]

I think he's referring to a Springfield M1 or M14....

 

[B4Dan]

I think he's referring to a Springfield M1 or M14....

Roger that, pretty accurate when done right, just a different platform

 

[Kevin Thomas]

Accurate when done correctly, but way too many problems to keep 'em running. That's onbe of the primary reasons that the M1As have fallen from favor in competitive circles, and the AR pattern rifles have replaced them.

Better off going with the AR platform right from the start, and not having to deal with the M1A headaches. Built right (good barrel, free floated and with a very good trigger), the AR should get the OP where he wants to go without much drama. Don't know what sort of LR shooting he wants to do, but setting up something along the lines of the AMU's M110s would be a good way to go. If you're not shooting it as a Service Rifle, that opens the options up a bit, and allows for some different caliber options, such as the 260.

several choices to be made here, but we need to know a bit more about this rifle's final application before we can give truly helpful advice.

 

[ICANHITHIMMAN]

I think he's referring to a Springfield M1 or M14....

I know he was, but it was not mentioned in the OPs initial question, so its irreverent in the discussion.

 

[woodnut]

Hummm, since you said "accurate to 800 to 1000 yards", I have to throw in the 6.5 Grendel in the AR15 platform, which is where the 300Whisper and 300AAC Blackout are. Neither of those two are accurate past about 100 yards. However, in an AR10 I'd pick the 260 over the 308. Just my two cents.

 

[bigbuck]

Thanks guys for your input an opinions . I blieve the .300 WHISPER want meet my needs. I have read up on The AR-.308 SASS style rifle and I believe DPMS offers this style rifle correct me if I am wrong . I want a .308 sniper rifle capable of supressing fire and long range ability . With this info what do you guys suggest ? I dont want to drop a ton of money . Thanks for replying to the thread.

 

[ICANHITHIMMAN]

Thanks guys for your input an opinions . I blieve the .300 WHISPER want meet my needs. I have read up on The AR-.308 SASS style rifle and I believe DPMS offers this style rifle correct me if I am wrong . I want a .308 sniper rifle capable of supressing fire and long range ability . With this info what do you guys suggest ? I dont want to drop a ton of money . Thanks for replying to the thread.

Well I'm a huge proponent of buy once cry once. Lots of guys here will tell you that x and y are just fine and I don't know what I'm talking about. That's fine but they are not running high round counts through their weapons every month, if you intend to shoot the weapon a lot buy the LMT with a chrome bore. It offers the best of everything because of the barrel change options.

If you just want a run of the mill rifle that may or may not have issues get one of the hobby guns like x and y. I cant even bring my self to write their names sorry. The LMT runs about 2500$

 

[bigbuck]

Well I'm a huge proponent of buy once cry once. Lots of guys here will tell you that x and y are just fine and I don't know what I'm talking about. That's fine but they are not running high round counts through their weapons every month, if you intend to shoot the weapon a lot buy the LMT with a chrome bore. It offers the best of everything because of the barrel change options.

If you just want a run of the mill rifle that may or may not have issues get one of the hobby guns like x and y. I cant even bring my self to write their names sorry. The LMT runs about 2500$

WOW I just googled LMT and it looks exactly like what I would want . I sawsome pretty impressive pictures of groups .Now All I need is $2500 ;-)

 

[ICANHITHIMMAN]

WOW I just googled LMT and it looks exactly like what I would want . I sawsome pretty impressive pictures of groups .Now All I need is $2500 ;-)

Well the money is the easy part right now, I would put your order in you will have time to save....

You dont want to look at this
http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=80781

 

[blksno]

...Neither of those two are accurate past about 100 yards.

Well, I do agree that the large frame AR (either the AR10 or LR308/SR25 variants) is the choice to stick with when looking for an accurate semi-auto platform in the mid-to-long range...but to say that the Blackout or Whisper aren't accurate beyond 100 yards is COMPLETE BULL CRAP.

In fact, it's almost insulting to suggest that. There are different levels of accuracy that can be considered...but this platform is more than capable in the hands of people that know what they are doing.

I can't even believe I just read that.