I looked through about 3 pages and no one was talking about the 6 Creed. I have both the 6.5 and 6 Creeds and now love the 6! Factory Hornady Black with a 105 HPBT shoots under 1/2 inch and I didn't think I could surpass it by reloading. But the bug hit and now I can't find any load that goes over 1/2 inch, with most going .4oo! Tried 4831SC, Superformance, and RL19. All did it. In my rifles (yes, I have 2) I've chrono'ed these loads at 3160fps+-. I Know H4350 is supposed to be THE go to powder, but since it's hard to come by, I tried the others. Seriously, a 108 ELD or the 105 AMAX will shoot all day under crazy conditions under 1/2 inch at 100 and I've got 2 groups at 300 that were 1.700. I don't have a longer range so I don't know what these loads will do longer; but at 1000 yds. the factory is clanging steel ! I am now doing the RL19 with 108s, no pressure signs either. This is one amazing round! I have reloaded for over 50 years, many cartridges, and this one is blowing my mind! It has less comeups than the 6.5 at 1000yds., less recoil, and hits steel with authority. Have not deer hunted with it, but believe it will whack. It sure does on groundhogs and prairie dogs! Just wondered if anyone else is reloading the 6.