Buffalobob
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Re: 338 thunder pics
What I told Rem 25-06 about 2 weeks ago. Soaking overnight will not work on pre-tied newspaper. The center will be dry. You have to "fluff it up" to get the water into the center pages. Running 7mm 160 gr Nosler partions with an impact velocity of maybe 2900 fps I was getting about 12-14 inches of penetration. Transporting leaking, wet, dripping newspaper is also a lot of fun.
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I told you so. That newspaper is hard to get wet.
While you can still remember. Record what was the penetration depths. Secondly, try to remember what you saw when you found the actual bullet. If there is a "dry spot" the bullet will act like a "paper punch" and build up layers of paper in front of it and it is the front paper that is absorbing the damage and the bullet is 30 pages back just pushing a wad of paper through the rest of the newspaper. This obscures the fact that the bulllet is fragile or tough. You simply do not know when the bullet "pushes " paper. Retained weigth becomes meaningless because the newspaper did not provide a realistic simulation of animal tissue reacting to the bullet. If the bullet was not "pushing paper" then you can have a little more confidence in the results but I would shoot at least three of any bullet you are actually considering for a large boned animal so you have an understanding of repeatibility of the bullet behavior.
I apologize for raining on your parade, but there is a lot of "issues" with this kind of testing and you need to understand what you have seen. I have been there , done that, and erred. Just trying to help you not beat you up.
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What I told Rem 25-06 about 2 weeks ago. Soaking overnight will not work on pre-tied newspaper. The center will be dry. You have to "fluff it up" to get the water into the center pages. Running 7mm 160 gr Nosler partions with an impact velocity of maybe 2900 fps I was getting about 12-14 inches of penetration. Transporting leaking, wet, dripping newspaper is also a lot of fun.
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I told you so. That newspaper is hard to get wet.
While you can still remember. Record what was the penetration depths. Secondly, try to remember what you saw when you found the actual bullet. If there is a "dry spot" the bullet will act like a "paper punch" and build up layers of paper in front of it and it is the front paper that is absorbing the damage and the bullet is 30 pages back just pushing a wad of paper through the rest of the newspaper. This obscures the fact that the bulllet is fragile or tough. You simply do not know when the bullet "pushes " paper. Retained weigth becomes meaningless because the newspaper did not provide a realistic simulation of animal tissue reacting to the bullet. If the bullet was not "pushing paper" then you can have a little more confidence in the results but I would shoot at least three of any bullet you are actually considering for a large boned animal so you have an understanding of repeatibility of the bullet behavior.
I apologize for raining on your parade, but there is a lot of "issues" with this kind of testing and you need to understand what you have seen. I have been there , done that, and erred. Just trying to help you not beat you up.
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