3006 vs 7 rem mag to buy or not to buy

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by gohring3006, Mar 19, 2014.

  1. gohring3006

    gohring3006 Well-Known Member LRH Team Member

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    should i a buy the 7 rem mag or keep my 06 the 06 is moa and sub moa with certain loads (2in 10 shot groups at 400) everybody is on the 7 mag for long range i to go to 1000 yrds just wondering if i should get the 7 mag or spend the money on a good bdc turret scope
     
  2. idaho elk hunter

    idaho elk hunter Well-Known Member

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    They are not even comparable. The 7mm bullet is far better in the BC and sectional density area. Especially if you reload and make it what it should be, Not some neutered dog that the recent load books make it. Work the loads up to signs of primer flattening and run them over a chrono and you will see what I mean. The 06 to a 7mm is like comparing apples to oranges. Try a 168 LRAB and a slower powder like Retumbo, Ramshot, N570 etc and get 3100 out of a 26. 06 cant do it.
     
  3. Cascade

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    If i'm reading this correctly...this is your answer



    Of course if you want another gun...get one too
     
  4. kcebcj

    kcebcj Well-Known Member

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    It all depends on what you want. I have shot a 06 a lot and with the right load it can be a 700 yard elk rifle. Shooting a 1000 yards with it is no big deal. Mine is a 1/2 MOA rifle as you describe above. You generally really have to get a rifle tuned up to shoot that well. If you buy that 7MM more then likely won't shoot that well unless it is a custom built rifle.

    idaho elk hunter is right it is apples and oranges between the two rifles but in my opinion a 30-06 that can shoot big bullets at 1/2 MOA can be a pretty sweet hunting rifle. Cheap and easy to shoot with ammo everywhere. But also the 7MM is a fine rifle so whatever floats your boat.

    Buy the best scope you can afford and use it on the rifle of your choice.
     
  5. Barrelnut

    Barrelnut Well-Known Member

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    +100 on what Cascade says. A 2" 10 shot group at 400 yards is pretty tight. Obviously you and the rifle have something going. Use the money for a better long range scope and see what she can do.
     
  6. gohring3006

    gohring3006 Well-Known Member LRH Team Member

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    thanks for the info guys i think the key to accuracy is starting with a good rifle then get to know how it recoils how to react to it and then shoot it often till it becomes an extension of u thanks again 50grns 4064 165 hornady lobs in real tight
     
  7. Jluck

    Jluck Well-Known Member

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    The answer is YES! Keep that '06 and guard it with your life AND buy a 7mag.
     
  8. gohring3006

    gohring3006 Well-Known Member LRH Team Member

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    I can get 3000 out of a 24 in 06 with 60gr. Of h 4350 so I'm not sold on the 168s I know the BC and SD is better In the 7 but its not enough to switch rifles im beginning to see with the right load the 06 can do what the 7 can do with in normal ranges with better bullet weight choices
     
  9. MontanaRifleman

    MontanaRifleman Well-Known Member

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    I would hesitate to sell a good shooting rifle like that so keep it. If you want a 7 mag too, go for it. I would recommend a 7 LRM or Dokota,

    You might try shooting 215 Bergers over some RL17. You should get somewhere between 2800 to 2900 fps with that combo out of your 24" barrel which would put you close in velocity to a 7 mag shooting 180's out of a 24" barrel.
     
  10. gohring3006

    gohring3006 Well-Known Member LRH Team Member

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    do I have to puchase differnt seating die for the 215 bergers because of the long secant ogive or can I use standard die?
     
  11. MontanaRifleman

    MontanaRifleman Well-Known Member

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    Depending on the die you have, you may only need to get a VLD type seating stem. Redding and Hornady have VLD and A-Max seating stems.
     
  12. Ingwe

    Ingwe Well-Known Member

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    I totally agree.

    I am loading 168gr Accubond LR's with 79.3gr (a hair BELOW Max!) of RL-33 in my M70 with a 26" Benchmark barrel and getting 3,128FPS with sub 1/2 at 100 yards.
     
  13. gohring3006

    gohring3006 Well-Known Member LRH Team Member

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    I was doing the math and concluded that the price of getting dies,ammo,the new rifle and scope I wasn't going to get any more performance so I'm going to get a nightforce with custom turret and research for a year or so at the range putting it up against all the 7mm rem mags out there and see what's up
     
  14. FEENIX

    FEENIX Well-Known Member

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    Agree! Compare same caliber but different chamberings (using same bullets), i.e.;

    .308 Win vs .30-06 SPRG

    or

    .280 Rem/AI vs 7MM Rem Mag

    not different caliber and different chamberings to make it comparable (or close to it). :cool:lightbulb