.25 cal 131g .330G7 bullet from Blackjack Bullets for you to drool on ...

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I believe you don’t need a 7 twist in the Weatherby. On blackjacks site I think they list recommended twist rates. 7 twist falls in on 25-06 and 25-284. In my 25-284 I went 1-7.25”. Only concern would be over rpm at the Weatherby velocity and the bullet coming apart. Now with a 128 hammer it would be awesome.
7.75 works fine in a 257 Wby.
 

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Hi, I’ve done some research on here and was wondering what the optimal twist rate would be for running the 131 ace bullets in a 257 wby?

Would a 1-7 twist Brux barrel running them 3,200-3,300 fps would be spinning them too much?

Also, I was wondering if running a 25 PRC would be better? I have a long action Remington action mag bolt face that I was going to use for the build.

Does anyone know if reamers for either caliber are available that I could rent?

Thanks for your help!
Built my .257wby on a 7.5t Proof which was the recommended twist directly from blackjack. I never ran the 131s much over 3300 but I’m sure some guys are getting close to 3400 which was my goal.

If I did it over again I’d likely run a 25PRC/SAUM/SST and a 7t so I could run the heavier Hammers as well.
 

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Hi, I’ve done some research on here and was wondering what the optimal twist rate would be for running the 131 ace bullets in a 257 wby?

Would a 1-7 twist Brux barrel running them 3,200-3,300 fps would be spinning them too much?

Also, I was wondering if running a 25 PRC would be better? I have a long action Remington action mag bolt face that I was going to use for the build.

Does anyone know if reamers for either caliber are available that I could rent?

Thanks for your help!
1-7 will work for the ace but 1-7.5 to 1-8 would be ideal to keep the rpms down and put less stress on jackets. The blackjacks have seemed to do just fine with 1-7 over 3300 fps. Although they are made by Sierra who is known for having thicker jackets. So just because the ace can handle the higher rpms does not mean the newer bergers will as well. And one day when Hornady comes out with a eld-m I doubt it will as they already blow up at PRC velocities. 5R rifling is supposed to be easier on jackets to if you have that option. It’s always nice to set up for more than just one bullet. Current times provide a good example why, the black jacks have been out of stock for months.
 

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^^^^ This is an important point. I did some load work up on a 1-7.5 twist .257 Wby that was chambered with the Blackjack reamer. I could not get the consistency I was looking for with the Blackjacks. I also didn’t get the speed everyone talks about but that is normal for me. I settled on the 121 Hammers that shot great. I would look at what gives you options.
Also you may want to ask and compare opinions on the Blackjack reamer compared to the standard reamer. It may be interesting to know as all these are long bullets.
 
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Blackjack recommended twist rates are what's required to maintain 100% stabilization/bc value to 000' asl at 32° F. My 257 blaser is 7.75tw, my 25sst is 7.5, of 4 25 creed barrels are 7. I've read that over twisting bullets can potentially degrade the accuracy potential of a rifle/bullet combo, but do not know if it is true or not.
 

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Blackjack recommended twist rates are what's required to maintain 100% stabilization/bc value to 000' asl at 32° F. My 257 blaser is 7.75tw, my 25sst is 7.5, of 4 25 creed barrels are 7. I've read that over twisting bullets can potentially degrade the accuracy potential of a rifle/bullet combo, but do not know if it is true or not.
Bullets will blow up before accuracy deteriorates.
 

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What COAL are you guys running in the short action magnums? Looking at rebarreling a wsm and wanted to make sure the mag box would handle it.

Was thinking a 25 PRC/SAUM - don’t know much about the SST.

Thanks for the help!
 

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I am awaiting 1:7" for my .257 WBTY but will be using Cayuga 117s until I can get my hands on 133 Bergers.
Blackjack told me to keep the MV below about 3200 in a 1:7 twist to keep them from blowing up.

Berger said it won't be a problem to run their 115, 133, 135gr in a 1:7 twisted weatherby.
 

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Bergers seem to hold up to all velocities in all twists. Sierra's also do well in most cases. I think they are more than likely being conservative with that statement. I've never heard of any 7 twist 257 Wby blowing up a 131 BJ bullet. I say have a ball with any .257 rifle at any (reasonable) speed with the 131s.
 

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My 25-284 is a 1-7.25” twist. R26 gets me 3160 FPS with the 131 BJ. No problems with the bullet so far.
 
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