I really like blue dot great accuracy with.
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del2les
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Not really. Here is some older Lil'Gun and AA#9 10mm data I still have. While not the fastest of 10mm loads, it does show it does work. -
Components:
--Hornady 180 grain XTP bullets;
--New Starline brass;
--CCI 350 Magnum Pistol Primers.
--OAL to just under 1.26".
As a baseline, two strings of high-power Accurate #9 loads on the same day as the Lil'Gun loads. All strings were fired in the same pistol, Colt Delta Elite Gold Cup, 24 pound Wolf recoil spring, coupled with the original recoil spring plug, which incorporates a smaller, secondary spring. This Delta Elite does not have a fully-supported chamber.
Accurate #9, 15 grains
1)_1331.0_ -32.6 f
2)_1366.0_ 2.4
3)_1370.0_ 6.4
4)_1373.0_ 9.4
5)_1365.0_ 1.4
6)_1354.0_ -9.6
7)_1360.0_ -3.6
8)_1368.0_ 4.4
9)_1370.0_ 6.4
10)_1379.0_ 15.4
High:_1379.0
Low:_1331.0
E.S.:_ 48.0
Ave.:_1363.6
S.D.:_ 13.3
95%:_ ±10.0
Accurate #9, 15.5 grains
1)_1393.0_ -7.9
2)_1417.0_ 16.1
3)_1398.0_ -2.9
4)_1395.0_ -5.9
5)_1405.0_ 4.1
6)_1410.0_ 9.1
7)_1399.0_ -1.9
8)_1413.0_ 12.1
9)_1396.0_ -4.9
10)_1383.0_ -17.9
High:_1417.0
Low:_1383.0
E.S.:_ 34.0
Ave.:_1400.9
S.D.:_ 10.3
95%:_ ±7.8
Hodgdon Lil'Gun, 15 grains
_ 1)_1219.0_ -19.8
_ 2)_1217.0_ -21.8
_ 3)_1260.0_ 21.2
_ 4)_1256.0_ 17.2
_ 5)_1265.0_ 26.2
_ 6)_1247.0_ 8.2
_ 7)_1242.0_ 3.2
_ 8)_1224.0_ -14.8
_ 9)_1233.0_ -5.8
_ 10)_1225.0_ -13.8
__ High:_1265.0
__ Low:_1217.0
__ E.S.:_ 48.0
__ Ave.:_1238.8
__ S.D.:_ 17.7
__ 95%:_ ±13.4
Hodgdon Lil'Gun, 15.5 grains
_ 1)_1250.0_ -5.3
_ 2)_1254.0_ -1.3
_ 3)_1267.0_ 11.7
_ 4)_1227.0_ -28.3
_ 5)_1286.0_ 30.7
_ 6)_1272.0_ 16.7
_ 7)_1266.0_ 10.7
_ 8)_1216.0_ -39.3
_ 9)_1238.0_ -17.3
_ 10)_1277.0_ 21.7
__ High:_1286.0
__ Low:_1216.0
__ E.S.:_ 70.0
__ Ave.:_1255.3
__ S.D.:_ 22.7
__ 95%:_ ±17.1
Hodgdon Lil'Gun, 16 grains
_ 1)_1282.0_ -4.5
_ 2)_1314.0_ 27.5
_ 3)_1282.0_ -4.5
_ 4)_1285.0_ -1.5
_ 5)_1304.0_ 17.5
_ 6)_1298.0_ 11.5
_ 7)_1253.0_ -33.5
_ 8)_1268.0_ -18.5
_ 9)_1279.0_ -7.5
_ 10)_1300.0_ 13.5
__ High:_1314.0
__ Low:_1253.0
__ E.S.:_ 61.0
__ Ave.:_1286.5
__ S.D.:_ 18.1
__ 95%:_ ±13.7
Hodgdon Lil'Gun, 16.5 grains
_ 1)_1246.0_ -47.7
_ 2)_1323.0_ 29.3
_ 3)_1286.0_ -7.7
_ 4)_1310.0_ 16.3
_ 5)_1320.0_ 26.3
_ 6)_1297.0_ 3.3
_ 7)_1286.0_ -7.7
_ 8)_1282.0_ -11.7
_ 9)_1273.0_ -20.7
_ 10)_1314.0_ 20.3
__ High:_1323.0
__ Low:_1246.0
__ E.S.:_ 77.0
__ Ave.:_1293.7
__ S.D.:_ 24.0
__ 95%:_ ±18.1
Orange Dust
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well I stand corrected, a little bit. However, seems like I have some in an 83 jug I quit using because it was torching 410 hulls. This might be a use for it better than fertalizer.
del2les
Well-Known Member
It is good for a lot of loads. I run a lot of it in several pistol/revolver loads and reduced rifle. My 9x23's and 38Super+P/38 Super Comp love it for speed and lower pressures. There are many others. I do agree I do not care for it in a 410, as I still use 2400 here (Lots still on my shelves)
md66948
Well-Known Member
I have been trying to find Blue Dot or AA#9 for months now. I see CFE Pistol a lot at my LGS so I may have to go in that direction.
HNDLDR
Well-Known Member
I've used AA#5 and #9. Blue dot,Power Pistol, Win 231, Longshot. I be been happy with them all. Depends how much power you want in your load. I use 10mm for everything from plinking to hiking in bear woods.
I use 8.6gr of Blue Dot behind a 200gr HC 22BHN at 1150 fps. This is a pretty light load for this gun as it can handle quite a bit more. About 9.6 before bulging and 10.3 is when primers start falling out. I also have some AA No 9, power pistol, longshot, and CFE Pistol I could try.
Get a SW500. It shines with Lil Gun.
Im running mine in my Glock and my 10mm Banshee AR Pistol at 8.9 grains of CFE Pistol. Didnt care much for TiteGroup Powder loads in my AR Banshee.So Im sticking with CFE Pistol in both guns .I started out at 8.3 grs of CFE Pistol and went up to 8.9grs. Im good at that range.Not too Hot and not to soft.Im using Hornady 155 grain XTP bullets
Orange Dust
Well-Known Member
Ya know, for a supposedly dead cartridge it seems like every one of us loads for it.... This is a fairly knowledgeable bunch though..... Remember guys, esp newbies if you want to try and play .41Mag with a 10 you will need a fully supported barrel and you will have to play with heavy springs. In a 1911 it helps to have a 6" heavy slide, 22-24# recoil spring and a stronger mainspring also to lower slide velocity. There are also some other little tricks that ****** timing. I will not print the load but my 6" 1911 is dangerously close to a .41. This is also getting up there with the very limit of what any sane person should attempt with a 1911, and they better understand what they are doing. fun though...
Without a properly modified and tuned pistol do not ever exceed a book load. 10MM, 38Super, and .45 I would wager are the most Hot Rodded pistol cartridges there are. Doing so without knowing exactly what you are doing is a great way to get a face full of slide or other parts. even if you know what you are doing I doubt is it is really safe since you are exceeding the design limits of the platform.
Without a properly modified and tuned pistol do not ever exceed a book load. 10MM, 38Super, and .45 I would wager are the most Hot Rodded pistol cartridges there are. Doing so without knowing exactly what you are doing is a great way to get a face full of slide or other parts. even if you know what you are doing I doubt is it is really safe since you are exceeding the design limits of the platform.
bjdiaz3190
Member
7,3 grains of CFE Pistol is what I've been using for range ammo.
bjdiaz3190
Member
Using the spoon included in the .40SW/10mm Lee Deluxe Pistol Die Set I can pretty much measure 7.3 grains every time by tapping the first scoop to compact the grains and then dipping again in the powder to get a heaping cup. I like measuring every load just for kicks since I'm not in a hurry. Part of reloading's entertainment value for a retiree
Great info on the thread on alternate powders. TXS
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Lefty G-gear
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I'd go with BLUEDOT
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