My son and I do this when practicing but we use a 24"x24" steel plate with a 10" orange circle painted in the center with a 2" white circle painted in the middle of the orange circle. We start at 500 yards and go out to 1000 yards. We shoot one shot each and then get in the truck and move back a random distance and start over. It's pretty fun. It's like a competition between us to see who can keep all their shots inside the 10" circle.
Guide shoots to 600 yds after watching backfire.
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I agree with you. Except I have been on trips I didn't pull the trigger in the morning or afternoon. The deer or elk just didn't hang out where we hunted
I agree but it's still Moa or close to it
FireFlyFishing
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Further. Not all of us can step out the door every morning and take shot. It requires a trip to the range. Time must be maximized at the range.I agree with you. Except I have been on trips I didn't pull the trigger in the morning or afternoon. The deer or elk just didn't hang out where we hunted
For this type of challenge, I'd find a couple ridges on public land I'd could drive to up in the hills. Which still requires time and effort.
alnpar
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I don't know how you can shoot that straight in WINDY WYO! W! Great Video.
TRG65
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I think it's good that people are looking at these challenges and trying them. The next step is learning from it. Even at the end of the backfire video, the shooter didn't seem ready to acknowledge the more practical limitations. A lot of people don't want to do competitions or don't shoot second because they don't do well. When the Allegheny Sniper Challenge (Seneca Rocks, WV) was still going one of the organizers favorite sayings was that it never rains on the internet. The same could be said for wind.
Nimrodmar10
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He never made a single wind call. Most of his misses were to the right of the jug. Wyoming has a constant wind, usually >10 mph. Full value wind at 10 mph at 600 yards would be +-5 moa or 30 inches. Wind is just as important as bullet drop
FireFlyFishing
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Agreed. This is why I like big brakes or a suppressor so you can see your impact and adjust accordingly. You can use your reticle for a hasty correction.
Hardshot
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I agree he never mentioned wind at all in video. I think he did a great job demonstrating the challenges. In real life situations I don't think anyone would have gotten the Barrel that hot . Leaving the action open longer would have helped to cool somewhat. Loading a shell in a hot chamber and letting it sit there and get pre heated will also affect accuracy . Just my 2cents from a benchrest shooters view.
Indeed. Still got the T-shirt.
2008 was a team match, my son and I won that year. Back before they allowed laser rangefinders. "No sighters, no laser rangefinders, and no whining." Just gave us the target sizes.
"Dope it, dial it, dump it." Got that T-shirt, too.
Later years when they began to cater to what would become the PRS crowd, they allowed lasers, and we compared the lasered distances with our reticle ranges in our data books from previous years, and we were closer than you might think on most of the targets. Most consider it a legacy skill, but I've got trophies that say it's viable.
Another one: "Even the last place shooter did better than all the dudes on the internet who don't have the guts to show up."
One more: "Looks like none of those '1/4 MOA all day long' rifles from the internet showed up here today!"
RIP Roderick Hansen
Nimrodmar10
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With a light rifle, chambered in 7 RM, even with a break, I don't think you'll ever be able to spot your own impacts. Always better to have a spotter.
FireFlyFishing
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I disagree. I shoot a 300 WSM and a 300 WM braked and can see my impacts. I use an Area 419 Hellfire brake…It flat out works.
