jeremy.b
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To be clear, I'm talking about a dedicated "Member Load Data" sub forum along side the "Reloading" one.
Hammer bullet concern
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To be clear, I'm talking about a dedicated "Member Load Data" sub forum along side the "Reloading" one.
Yes GLTaylor it does exist but not every bullet is on there.I recently bought 52 gr Hammer Hunter bullets for 223 bolt action rifle and there is no data yet.
On that page I hope I could add load data when I work up a load for my bolt 223 rifle or maybe send it to you for you to add to it.
I keep notes on EVERYTHING I load and develop a load for.
I go to your download at least 2 times a week to see if 223 52 gr H H has been added so I use it and appreciate it very much.A lot of hard work by many.I save the download on my desktop for quick reference and refer to it a lot.
Just a thought
On that page I hope I could add load data when I work up a load for my bolt 223 rifle or maybe send it to you for you to add to it.
I keep notes on EVERYTHING I load and develop a load for.
I go to your download at least 2 times a week to see if 223 52 gr H H has been added so I use it and appreciate it very much.A lot of hard work by many.I save the download on my desktop for quick reference and refer to it a lot.
Just a thought
First off I was asking because it is odd that you are complaining about people discussing reloading in the reloading section of the forum just because they are talking about a specific bullet you are tired of reading about.
Do you also feel the same way about Berger Hybrids and the Hornady ELDs? Just a short time ago those were the primary bullets people here were talking about and in fact if you look beyond the titles most of the threads in this section are talking about loading the Hybrid or ELD bullets. Should all of those threads be moved to the bullet forum because they are taking about those specific bullets? Are they "promoting" these bullets when they ask about or recommend them?
I currently only use the 123gr Absolute Hammer in my 6.5 PRC, which I plan to dual load with the 156Gr Berger but the rest of my rifles are shooting Berger Hybrids or Hornady ELDs so I'm not sure why you assume that I'm trying to "uphold the hammer image" whatever that means.
Varmint Hunter
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You really don't need all that much guidance to start using Hammer bullets. Steve has recommended using Nosler data for bullets of the same weight as a starting point. I've found that to be sound advice.
However - the "ABSOLUTE" hammers are a rather non-conventional bullet design that require a non-conventional load. Here is where the data that GLTaylor has compiled is invaluable. Without the combined input from our LRH members the Absolutes would be rather difficult to get to the velocities that can be achieved safely.
Special thanks to GLTaylor for all of his work in helping the LRH community.
However - the "ABSOLUTE" hammers are a rather non-conventional bullet design that require a non-conventional load. Here is where the data that GLTaylor has compiled is invaluable. Without the combined input from our LRH members the Absolutes would be rather difficult to get to the velocities that can be achieved safely.
Special thanks to GLTaylor for all of his work in helping the LRH community.
central iowa couple
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I usually don't get involved in these discussions but i look at it like seeing a fat lady on a nude beach. If you dont like it look at the other ones. The big gal thinks she's hot.....her movie.
Mine's a Rem 700 VTR SS - 22" 9 twist (223 Rem)
52 gr HH
Ramshot TAC - 28.5 gr
Winchester case
WSR primer
Seated 2.230"
3,400 fps
Muddyboots
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Ok, I think this needs to be restated. Load data that is posted is just a SUGGESTION where to start and what powder to use. This data is NO different than any other Internet data. You need to exercise caution and READ and RECOGNIZE your load development is with YOUR rifle and proceed with safe standard reloading practices. Know how to read and recognize early signs of pressure. Non of this data has been vetted with pressure testing under laboratory conditions.
I am writing this as a REMINDER to those who need a "Heads Up" just to provide a little kick in the
to make sure load development is done safely with YOUR specific rifle and not rely upon a specific load posted. Use standard ladder load development approach and you will be fine developing loads with Hammers. You will also save on components since you will see fast if the powder will generate the velocities you want to achieve.
I know a lot of folks here think this post is obvious but there are also others it may not be so obvious when looking at posted load data.
I am writing this as a REMINDER to those who need a "Heads Up" just to provide a little kick in the
to make sure load development is done safely with YOUR specific rifle and not rely upon a specific load posted. Use standard ladder load development approach and you will be fine developing loads with Hammers. You will also save on components since you will see fast if the powder will generate the velocities you want to achieve.I know a lot of folks here think this post is obvious but there are also others it may not be so obvious when looking at posted load data.
Varmint Hunter
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Got it Muddy,I just was wondering how high some have gone.
Northkill,a respected member got quite a bit over factory loads but I will start back at my past load data with a Hornady 52 gr bullet and look for pressure at anything above my past experience.3 bullets at a time.When I get into possible pressure numbers I go .2 over last load and check for signs.
Good reminder though and needed to be said,thanks.
Fires are still keeping Montana full of smoke and super dry so our shooting range is still closed so all I can do now is get ready.
central iowa couple I went to a nude beach once!I was 15 and the youngest person on the beach was around 80 years old.I thought I knew where everything was supposed to be but I was wrong.At my age now I can't be paid enough money to do that to a kid
Northkill,a respected member got quite a bit over factory loads but I will start back at my past load data with a Hornady 52 gr bullet and look for pressure at anything above my past experience.3 bullets at a time.When I get into possible pressure numbers I go .2 over last load and check for signs.
Good reminder though and needed to be said,thanks.
Fires are still keeping Montana full of smoke and super dry so our shooting range is still closed so all I can do now is get ready.
central iowa couple I went to a nude beach once!I was 15 and the youngest person on the beach was around 80 years old.I thought I knew where everything was supposed to be but I was wrong.At my age now I can't be paid enough money to do that to a kid
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Yep, be careful. Mine were loaded up to that. Not a place to start. Very happy with it though. Couldn't get that funny triangle barrel to take to any other bullet as well as this one. In a gun that size, I shoot whatever shoots the best.
Plus that Remington is most likely a stronger action than my Howa so I'll start where I had success before.
I sure do appreciate those that gives their pet loads as it gives us a target to search for and not just to replicate but appreciate a zone where it may go!
I sure do appreciate those that gives their pet loads as it gives us a target to search for and not just to replicate but appreciate a zone where it may go!
Muddyboots
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I shoot a ladder until I see first slight sign of pressure. I back off at least one full grain as potential load development. I do not shoot "deep" into pressure signs, not worth it for safety, brass or rifle. My first sign is when I see the first faint ejector mark on brass, any bolt lift resistance or any indication of primer edges being flattened. There is "no return in investment" pushing a load farther into pressure signs. Just not smart loading practice IMHO.
There is NO SUCH technical position to take that my rifle can take it.
Learn what to look for and do not ignore the signs and you will not become a Youtube star.
There is NO SUCH technical position to take that my rifle can take it.
Learn what to look for and do not ignore the signs and you will not become a Youtube star.
Bob Wright
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Agree. I just drop down to the lower node before I hit pressure signs. Find the final load there. My grandkids shoot these same rifles at times. I have to feel confident that I'm not going to push "that" button.
Maybe. But I wouldn't take an end to end shot on any game animal when I'm hunting so its not really a good test of the bullet for me.
I can guarantee you that if a 180" whitetail was headed directly away from me, I'd kill him with a Texas heart shot (monos). I've mainly used TSXs and they have not failed.
A buddy of mine frequents Africa once a year. He took his daughter using a 7mm-08 and 140gr TSXs. Killed all kinds of plains games with that combination. I bedded the rifle and developed the loads since he doesn't reload. The PH said the -08 wouldn't be enough. Told my buddy to tell him it was a short 7x57. PH was happy then. Ecstatic after the fest. Apparently he'd never seen the -08 nor TSXs.
