The gun guy said he would give me 500 for it and that's a rip off. The 7mm is to much gun for me and the killing power I would need for the occasional deer. So I will be selling it one way or the other. Just got back from the range and the best I got was around a 1.5" moa which is where I was guessing it would. Thanks for all the help and ideas
weatherby mark v vs remington 700 sps ss
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MudRunner2005
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I'm well aware of how the game works....I have quite a few 700's. And had a few customs. I am certainly not a newbie to this sport or to guns.
The truth is, the OP will never be happy until he gets a gun that will shoot like he sees some of ours shoot....And on his budget, unless he just lucks-up, I don't see that happening. The odds of him getting an inexpensive factory 700 .308 that will shoot significatntly better than his Weatherby straight out of the box is a long shot. That's just the truth. Which is why I was saying stick his money in the higher-end of the 2 guns. He will have to spend money on either one of them regardless, to make them shoot how he wants them to.
He could just rebarrel the Wby with a heavy Krieger or Douglas Air-Gauged in 7mm Wby or .257 Wby, and have his action bedded and he could have a long lange shooter with a gun he's already familiar with...
Just my thoughts.
Im taking ur guys advise and keeping the gun I made up my mind. Ill just save up for a Krieger barrel and a good stock. ill just have to get a muzzle break and a good recoil pad to deal with that donkey kick this thing has haha. again thanks for everyones advice. I tend to change my mind a lot about stuff but im keeping this gun. It is to nice of a gun to not even give it a chance. but this was the best group I got and im only a decent shot. shot from a bipod and sandbag rest in the back. this could have been luck but ill take it. the ones touching are my first two shots, then I pulled the third pretty bad then the forth is the one that completes the group
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MudRunner2005
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A good aluminum bedded stock, a good muzzle brake (like the Weatherby Accubrake), and a Pachmeyer Decelerator recoil pad will do wonders on a sharp recoil caliber rifle.
Also, if I'm not mistaken, you can send it to Weatherby for a rebarrel, and you could have them install one of the stainless fluted Accumark 7mm Wby barrels on it, and have them install their AccuBrake while they have it. That would knock out 2 birds with 1 stone.
Not sure what Weatherby charges to rebarrel a rifle, but I'm sure you could call them and ask them. They are very courteous and you get a real english-speaking person on the phone. I was shocked when I called them a few weeks ago.
Here's the AccuMark replacement stock I was referring to...
To order an exact AccuMark replica stock, order the model 6498 in Black/Gray Web. That will fit a #3 AccuMark barrel channel.
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Also, if I'm not mistaken, you can send it to Weatherby for a rebarrel, and you could have them install one of the stainless fluted Accumark 7mm Wby barrels on it, and have them install their AccuBrake while they have it. That would knock out 2 birds with 1 stone.
Not sure what Weatherby charges to rebarrel a rifle, but I'm sure you could call them and ask them. They are very courteous and you get a real english-speaking person on the phone. I was shocked when I called them a few weeks ago.
Here's the AccuMark replacement stock I was referring to...
To order an exact AccuMark replica stock, order the model 6498 in Black/Gray Web. That will fit a #3 AccuMark barrel channel.
Bell & Carlson Medalist
MudRunner2005
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Not a problem. Let us know how the rifle build goes.
I would also like to recommend looking into the RCBS Rock Chucker Supreme starter kit for reloading that I listed back a page or 2 ago. For the money you get alot of good stuff to get you started.
I use a Rock Chucker Supreme and other RCBS equipment, and have had 0 issues with it. You'll find most folks tend to be brand-loyal in the LR game when something seems to work good for them and last a long time. Which is why so many of us have so many different opinions about things.
Good luck, and keep us updated as to the progress.
I would also like to recommend looking into the RCBS Rock Chucker Supreme starter kit for reloading that I listed back a page or 2 ago. For the money you get alot of good stuff to get you started.
I use a Rock Chucker Supreme and other RCBS equipment, and have had 0 issues with it. You'll find most folks tend to be brand-loyal in the LR game when something seems to work good for them and last a long time. Which is why so many of us have so many different opinions about things.
Good luck, and keep us updated as to the progress.
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You made the right choice!
Dr. Vette
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I agree that I would at least buy a different stock and bed it. We have done that with most of our Mark V's and had success every time. The best (non-Accumark) Mark V we own came from the factory with a laminated stock, and that's already a good start. I don't think that you need to rebarrel it yet as there is plenty of room for improvement in the stock and bedding. And, you've only tried one particular factory load. In my experience you may need to try a few different loads before finding the right one. Even our most accurate Mark V has loads it doesn't like and won't shoot well. I also know that's not an inexpensive proposition.
I would highly recommend tuning the trigger as noted here:
http://www.weatherby.dk/content.php?32-How-to-MOD-your-MK-V-Trigger
If you want you can bed it yourself. There are plenty of online tutorials.
Accumark stocks show up on a semi-regular basis on eBay and Gunbroker for less $ than a new one. I've purchased this way and saved $100.
Good luck with the rifle.
I would highly recommend tuning the trigger as noted here:
http://www.weatherby.dk/content.php?32-How-to-MOD-your-MK-V-Trigger
If you want you can bed it yourself. There are plenty of online tutorials.
Accumark stocks show up on a semi-regular basis on eBay and Gunbroker for less $ than a new one. I've purchased this way and saved $100.
Good luck with the rifle.
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How many different types of factory loads did you try? Just remember you can take a factory load like remington core lok 150 grains and then try the same type remington core lok in higher or lower grains like maybe 180 grains and get a completely different group size. So that being said...I would buy 5 different boxes of ammo with different weights/grains to try and locate the best grouping ammo and since you are hoping to shoot it cheap I would start with 5 different boxes of the cheapest ammo...
People forget that most these factory rifles are designed for typical hunters/shooters which would be for 400 yards or less. At that range or less, you can probably even get a remington 783 or savage axis to shoot well enough but i wouldnt go with any of those two rifles unless it was going to be strictly a 200 yards woods hunting only rifle that doesnt get shot much other than hunting.
Varberger757
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Deener, all you've heard from us on your thread have been really good and practicable advices.
IMO there is one rifle left we didn't talk about, but which should fit your wishes perfectly. The good and reliable CZ 550/ 570 guns. They are pretty reasonable (!) priced, good looking, reliable and almost every time good shooters out of the box. gun) CZ- USA offers even more sophisticated guns that we unfortunately don't get in Europe.
Do yourself a favour and take a deep look on their site. BTW, the CZ - action is a modernized Mauser 98 action.
IMO there is one rifle left we didn't talk about, but which should fit your wishes perfectly. The good and reliable CZ 550/ 570 guns. They are pretty reasonable (!) priced, good looking, reliable and almost every time good shooters out of the box. gun) CZ- USA offers even more sophisticated guns that we unfortunately don't get in Europe.
Do yourself a favour and take a deep look on their site. BTW, the CZ - action is a modernized Mauser 98 action.Bigeclipse- the only ammo iv shot so far is federal premium 160 grain nosler partition. I bought three boxes of that with the gun. That's all the local gun shop guy had and he bought them on sale awhile ago do I got em for $20 a box. Other wise I have one box of weatherby ultra-high velocity 154 grain spire point I paid $60 for at the closest scheels and that's all they have at the closest scheels about 20 miles away. The closest gander mountain doesn't carry any in store so if u guys know any website I could buy cheaper ammo that would be great as I'm limited to only that weatherby stuff from scheels unless the gun guy in town gets more
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Well, I would check every gun shop within a 30 min drive of you. Call them before you drive, they should be able to tell you if they have anything in stock. The good news is 1.5MOA you got is ok to at least hunt out to 300-400 yards. Before you go and buy more ammo, id highly advise on bedding your mark V like others have said. You can look up how to do it yourself which would only cost you like 20-40 bucks, but if you dont feel confident in doing it yourself, have a gunsmith do it...he should be able to do it in a pretty quick turn around time and shouldnt be to much. The reason I say bed it is, sometimes bedding alone can make a big difference. It may take your 1.5MOA federal premiums and make it sub 1 MOA. Also, it CAN change how your rifle tunes so you might find a load that shoots ok but then you bed your rifle and that one load MAY shoot worse, but this is unlikely. I would definitely try bedding the rifle since you already have a few boxes of ammo. Then shoot that ammo and see what you get, while keeping your eyes open at local shops for other cheaper ammo. The key here is once your rifle is bedded and once you find a good shooting load, you should then buy as much of that specific ammo as you can afford or that they carry.
