I will not be getting 'the vaccine'...

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Reuters, NYT, and AP news is all owned by the same family, the Rothschild family. If you dont know, they are the ring leader of the big reset . This is what we face in getting real honest information. One family owns every major news organization in the US. The true is what the Rothschilds want the truth to be.
 
I can understand that perspective, but in all reality, the same could be said for taking the shot.
Seems that we don't have much of a choice but to run through the forest with our eyes closed. With information that has been politicized (lies) none of us really know what to do.
I respect people who take the shot, and people who choose not to. It's easy for me to see one would choose either way. It depends on where you get your information, and unfortunately, there is not a reliable place that we can all go to to get the truth. The information always gets twisted to support one agenda or another, leaving us all blind.
It's no more than flipping in coin imo, and nobody seems to be able to actually prove that wrong. Opinions have nothing to do with truth.


Well said @nmbarta
 
RNA free outside of a cell is a warning sign to the body. The only reason for it to be there is a virus, and therefor a) just seeing it causes an immune response (innate immunity, not specific to an antigen, causing general inflammation and a fever), and b) the body is really good at breaking it down. mRNA cannot survive for any significant period of time because of this. So it is encapsulated within a fat bubble...a lipid nanoparticle....which protects it. Cell membranes are also lipids, so these lipid nanoparticles can fuse with cells and deliver their mRNA payload into the cell, where it causes protein machinery to make the encoded protein fragment -- the antigen -- for a period of time before the mRNA is degraded. The antigen is presented on the cell surface where it actives the adaptive immune system -- the one which produces a specific response to a specific antigen and gives you immunity in the future.

As for Cahill's comments, sorry, I'm not wasting an hour of my life on a video. A quick search implies that she is making really unfounded claims about nutrition/vitamins/hydroychloroquine....good luck with that...if those are her claims (is this the nearly year old video? We've come a long way since then) they've been completely debuked. We have positive Phase 3 trials for multiple vaccines, antibodies, and other treatments, folks...

Thank you for taking the time to explain. You have clarified what Bill Gates means when he talks about turning our cells into vaccine factories.

Historically, and by legal definition, a vaccine contains an antigen. A mRNA treatment contains an instruction for CELLS to MANUFACTURE an antigen.

It seems many are writing this off as semantics, but when experts in the field say 'hey, wait a second, this isn't semantics, there are potential risks. How does the cell turn this instruction off? What happens when the body encounters a variant of the actual virus down the road?

I wish I could write Cahill and company off, but 9 months later she stands by her claims and has even defended them in court. I understand your lack of interest but for the benefit of all I will offer this link to an ongoing international tribunal.


For interested parties, this is a link to a repository of video testimonials discussing a view alternate to the 'popular' narrative
 
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First off, burden of proof lies with the poster making the claim. Secondly, he's saying it's guaranteed. So to disprove it all that has to happen is one person without a hijab doesn't get raped and murdered. My buddy travels the US for work, if she's ever been to Deerborn then I guess we're in the clear.


To the gentleman posting the article taking us further off topic, that's one case of a different type in a different state. I was offered 100% success at rape and murder in Deerborn MN.
Oh Casual, as I told you before, drop the rifle, get out of the shower and rest your single-track mind. You are missing the point that OP was trying to make, and now you have sprayed shower water on everyone else's opinion just so you can say that you are right about the wrong message. When you wake up and are feeling better, here is the situation everyone else is trying to warn you about. Radical Muslims are taking over parts of the north-east and even getting themselves elected to congress and trying their best, from the inside, to radically and fundamentally ruin this country that they were not even born in. If just one American woman gets raped in Dearborn Michigan, that is too many and it is not the point anyway. Radical Muslims are here and they are coming for YOU and everyone that does not believe as they do. Some religions are not the same as your religion and those religions hate you and your religion and are willing to kill you to make their point.
 
Oh Casual, as I told you before, drop the rifle, get out of the shower and rest your single-track mind. You are missing the point that OP was trying to make, and now you have sprayed shower water on everyone else's opinion just so you can say that you are right about the wrong message. When you wake up and are feeling better, here is the situation everyone else is trying to warn you about. Radical Muslims are taking over parts of the north-east and even getting themselves elected to congress and trying their best, from the inside, to radically and fundamentally ruin this country that they were not even born in. If just one American woman gets raped in Dearborn Michigan, that is too many and it is not the point anyway. Radical Muslims are here and they are coming for YOU and everyone that does not believe as they do. Some religions are not the same as your religion and those religions hate you and your religion and are willing to kill you to make their point.
I wonder if the Radical Muslims are gonna get the shot ?????;)
 
I am looking at it presently, and can get the shot now. Some info: The Spanish flu in 1915 killed far more than to Covid has so far. Polio got a strong hold on use because of the Spanish flu. That was do to a major change of how we did things after that Spanish flu. Polio wasn't a big thing back in the early 1900, but as we got into the 1950 it was huge. I can remember standing in line for hours to get my shot of salt vaccine in the middle 50's as a kid. For the most of us there wasn't any problem, but it did create problems, for some. This vaccine will create a problem for some, but most it won't. I live with my wife that got COVID in Nov, 2020, and my son wife got it too. Neither time I didn't get sick, so far so good, but I am in my 70's now. I am looking into it and have talk to doctors about it, and they said get the dam shots.
With polio it seems, that infants could catch the disease with very mild or no affects. As a result they pretty much had a lifelong immunity to the disease. The disease was transmitted primarily by feces. After the turn of the century we cleaned up the sewage with flush toilets etc. so that infants we're no longer widely being exposed In large numbers to polio or acquiring immunity. Instead when those above infant age came in contact with the virus for the first time they became sick. Improved sanitation expedited the deadly Outbreaks of the 1950's Because it limited exposure of infants.

Another point: We vaccinated the people at risk which were the young. Now we are going to vaccinate the young who are not at significant risk and may experience lifelong complications to protect primarily the old and dying. Am I the only one troubled by this? The world does have a long history of sending young men to die because of old men's ambitions. I wrote a paper in military school no less on why I liked atomic bombs. It was a little tongue in cheek but addressed the egalitarian nature of atomic warfare—everybody had a chance to die not just disposable young men. Are we old farts going to risk the young to save ourselves? We have no problem saddling them with crushing debt so what the hell...vaccinate all those healthy young bastards so I can live another day.
 
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Two of my kids are doctors and have seen this thing firsthand I greatly respect their opinion and advice on medical matters and they both got the shot as soon as they could as did my wife and I. I have known people who have gotten it and recovered in days and others who have gotten it and died. The way I look at it not getting the shot is like running through the forest with your eyes closed maybe you will run into a tree maybe not. I took the shot. That being said I was never one to stay home or wear a mask I went about my life normally but I figured if it was good enough for my kids it was good enough for me.
Unfortunately, the younger you are the more likely you are to believe things on the web at face value. If a person grew up with the internet throughout their childhood, they tend to believe what the internet authorities say. Its like these fact checks we see on every single feed that challenges the internet version of the truth. They don't realize money corrupts and the same disgustingly rich family owns all the news feeds, except the small independent feeds . The powerful slander the small ones , then under the scize of " fact checking " discredit the smaller independent outfits . This puts any information not on the rich monopolies agenda squarely into the " conspiracy theory " category . The popular opinion of conspiracy theory is old aluminum foil hat wearing white racists . And in this new world of grouping people, those are the bad guys . Just food for thought.
By the way, great job , sir, on putting 2 kids through college all the way to a doctorate degree. That's tough to pull off !
 
Casual, it is me again, your friend treeslug. As for Stumpgrinder being on topic, that is debatable, but I will not debate. But--his claim that Deerborn Michigan is becoming a thriving Islamic community is more than folklore. I can not claim to know how many Muslims are in Michigan, but there is reason to take notice.
Can't remember where I read it but Dearborn supposedly has a 97% Muslim population
 
I don't even know where to start here. This entire tirade (and the last few you have posted) are completely off topic and unrelated to this thread or reality. I would implore you to question the motives of whatever echo chamber convinced you that any of this is factual.

I've never been to MN, but if I ever go I'll certainly take you up on your very scary and totally real challenge of stopping in Deerborn.
Well first off you are not a woman but I would still like to see you walk several miles through Deerborn possibly in the evening and get back to us if you can to tell us how it went also if you have never been to Michigan then how do you know this is not true
 
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