I'm Done With Nosler Brass!

[motrophyhunter]

I have used Nosler bras for some time in various calibers due to it consistency within lots and even when using other lots it was within a grain or two of other lots. But then I ran across a 44 grain difference between two different lots. I called Nosler support on this issue and they did not seem to be surprised with this much of a difference. I explained I was not able to purchase Nosler brass except on line or drive long distances to try and find the same lot. I asked if it is possible two buy bulk quantities with no luck. I explained I enjoy shooting and hunting LR and it would be nice if they would offer the option to buy in larger quantities than 50 for this specific caliber. Getting no where with Nosler I decided to give up on them and ask for input from others who they trust in quality brass and can be bought in quantities of 200 plus in the same lot. Look forward to your input.

 

[rsmithsr]

specifics
what cartridge had a 44 GRAIN VARIATION ??

I still use their brass,BUT I only buy several boxes at a time FRROM the same lot and then resort to 1/2 gr spread from their original 1 grain.

 

[motrophyhunter]

specifics
what cartridge had a 44 GRAIN VARIATION ??

I still use their brass,BUT I only buy several boxes at a time FRROM the same lot and then resort to 1/2 gr spread from their original 1 grain.

7 Mag

 

[rsmithsr]

sorry I do not buy it.
that is about 25% of "normal" case weight

there is no way for that much variation in a pair of in spec cases.
show us some pics of scale reading ?

 

[ShtrRdy]

I know that Norma has two different case weights for the 300 Win Mag. I don't remember the number of grains but it is very different. Maybe Nosler has done something similar?

added - Norma even has separate reloading data for two different weights.
https://www.norma-ammunition.com/us/Ammunition-Academy/Reloading-Data/300-Winchester-Magnum---light/

 

[Dean2]

Peterson brass is getting some really good reviews, and there is always Lapua if they make it for the gun you are talking about, you didn't specify. Both can be bought in batches of 100 and easy to get suppliers to send same lots if you order more.

P.S. Just saw you said 7 Rem Mag in a later post, no Lapua for 7 or 300 Mag.

 

[lancetkenyon]

I have bought about 3000+ 28 Nosler brass over 4 years, and every one has been within 4 grains of each other. And I keep meticulous photo records.

I can't even get 44 gr difference in mixed headstamp 7RM brass. From Hornady, Nosler, R-P, Win, Federal, Norma, HSM, and ADG. 22gr at the most that I can remember across all brands.

The worst brass variation I have ever seen in a single headstamp was Bertram .338 Edge that was something like 14 or 16gr IIRC.

Something sounds off.

 

[Jluck]

4.4 grains maybe?

 

[MagnumManiac]

I have Norma made Lapua 300WM brass, it IS heavier than regular Norma made brass, which is what Nosler headstamped brass is anyway. Regular brass runs around 215gr and the heavier brass is around 246gr.

It is certainly possible that a 44gr difference is present.
I have first run Nosler 300WM brass that weighs and internal profile is identical to Federal 300WM cases. It is also much heavier and softer than the Norma produced brass.

Cheers.

 

[robert l]

I have bought about 3000+ 28 Nosler brass over 4 years, and every one has been within 4 grains of each other. And I keep meticulous photo records.

I can't even get 44 gr difference in mixed headstamp 7RM brass. From Hornady, Nosler, R-P, Win, Federal, Norma, HSM, and ADG. 22gr at the most that I can remember across all brands.

The worst brass variation I have ever seen in a single headstamp was Bertram .338 Edge that was something like 14 or 16gr IIRC.

Something sounds off.

yep i ran into the same issue with bertram edge brass. Im wondering is adg will ever restock their edge or 300 rum brass?

 

[david g ranes]

I ran into the same problem last year with nosler brass had to change powder charges to get my velocities back I had brass that was around 50 grains different from my older brass don't remember which was the heaviest. David

 

[Raudy707]

You cull your bullets so just sort your brass. 44 grains seems crazy maybe even unsafe i weigh everything just out of habit but I've never seen more than 4 grains difference in the past 5 years with all their 280 AI brass. But that's a small sample size of only 400 pieces.

 

[robert l]

I ran into the same problem last year with nosler brass had to change powder charges to get my velocities back I had brass that was around 50 grains different from my older brass don't remember which was the heaviest. David

I have used nosler brass for about seven years and i have never seen that big of a swing in weight. I allso use bertram and there brass has the biggest swing that ive seen.And i go though alot of brass in the big magnums i shoot at least a 100 rounds a week.

 

[Mikecr]

That's a shame and worse if you have to start over with load development.

This is why I pick what I can buy all I need of(in lot). Then I do, and measure every one, before filling out a reamer print.
With a factory gun, I'll have to work with what I end up with, but it will be enough of same lot for the life of that barrel.
Same with bullets, powder, primers.

I make sure that I can manage at least 50 perfect cases (after culling offenders) per gun. It's then as important to make my cases last at least 40 reload cycles.
So I choose my cartridges and sizing plan carefully.

If I shot any magnums, then I would have to account for a constant changing of brass.
A lot more of it.