#1 best tip for new shooters trying to get into the long range game!

I honestly think you get what you pay for...sure you can buy a ruger american and a vortex hs-t to get in the game. If you really want to get serious about it you need to go full custom and you can't cheap out on glass - at least thats what I was told by another member on this forum. I am saving up my pennies and hope to be able to get a tangent theta in the next few years.

A half MOA gun is a half MOA gun, regardless of the price tag. Anyone who tells you that you need a $3000 scope or a $4000 rifle to successfully shoot/hunt at long range, probably has a used scope or rifle they're trying to sell you. There are plenty of experienced shooters here on LRH who are getting excellent results with "budget" builds.
 
A half MOA gun is a half MOA gun, regardless of the price tag. Anyone who tells you that you need a $3000 scope or a $4000 rifle to successfully shoot/hunt at long range, probably has a used scope or rifle they're trying to sell you. There are plenty of experienced shooters here on LRH who are getting excellent results with "budget" builds.
Thats what I had always thought until recently. I appreciate your thoughts on this...I can't say I disagree.
 
A half MOA gun is a half MOA gun, regardless of the price tag. Anyone who tells you that you need a $3000 scope or a $4000 rifle to successfully shoot/hunt at long range, probably has a used scope or rifle they're trying to sell you. There are plenty of experienced shooters here on LRH who are getting excellent results with "budget" builds.
Great advice. I don't have high dollar gear but I do try to use what I have to get trigger time.
 
As we use to teach and was taught to me, anyone can be taught to twist a turret to a known range, but the difference in shooters and success is wind reading and trigger control-follow through.

Decades ago, when I began learning Palma and 1,000yd prone, I was taught to shoot an accurate 22LR, then a Rem 513T, at 300-400 yds at proportionally reduced targets. The trigger control, follow-through, ballistic arch, reading wind drift, etc all came into play much sooner, and the amount of practice allowed by such was FAR greater and cheaper. Once we went back to our 30's, most of us had far better technique and scores.

Even today, I shoot 600-1,000yds with fast twist 223/223AI's with 75 and 80gr bullets to keep up practice with much reduced barrel wear, cost and recoil on my old shoulder. If one builds a similar rifle as his LR hunting rig, it is a plus but not required.

Trigger time, live and dry, for there is no substitute for being there.
 
Brother it's the internet now days everyone shoots 1/4 moa groups lol
If you're confident that you have your fundamentals down, then start expanding to more difficult task and take up some formal knowledge and train to apply it. I'm one to always recommend a reputable school or course but if you aren't going to do that you can at least go over books like applied ballistics.
There's so many personal standards and opinions to circulate those standards it's hard to pinpoint what people actually want to do and what the best way to get there is. **** people can't even universally agree on here what "long range" is and half the people on here aren't comfortable in their ability to kill beyond 500y.


To that end, number 1 advice is learn with credible sources, followed by don't take short cuts to do it then gain your own experience. Crawl, walk, run.
 
I have got my fundamentals down pretty good as well as my reloading. Just don't know how to progress from here. Here is 10 round group from my 300 Norma.
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You're the OP, then post a pic like this, then say you have the fundamentals and reloading down, the only logical thing to do now is get out and shoot LR. I like steel, painted. Just remember, we are all good on calm days. Learn to true an app or solution to actuals at varying distances.
I have a habit of telling people not to overthink this crap, learn to read wind based off terrain features, learn what it does when terrain pinches it down and funnels it, figure how much of a corner wind can take, or how much of it will actually go over a hill. So shoot in as many different locations you can, none are the same.
 
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