Powder Pressure differences between Nickel Plated Brass vs Normal Brass

[LVJ76]

Hi all:

I plan on developing some loads with Nickel Plated Brass for my 7mm Rem Mag and one of my 7mm-08 and I read somewhere that you expect higher pressures, that you need to watch for pressure signs with less powder than with normal brass. Is this true?

Also, will max velocities be around the same than with normal brass or slower?

Thanks in advance for your input

 

[bigedp51]

Nickel plated brass tends to crack and split at the case mouth and neck sooner than just plain brass cases.

To be truthful I would just stick with brass cases rather than use any type plated cases.

 

[TexSavage]

LVJ76, do you want me to repost from the other thread to this correct thread?

 

[LVJ76]

LVJ76, do you want me to repost from the other thread to this correct thread?

Not needed Tec, thank you again

 

[LVJ76]

LVJ76, do you want me to repost from the other thread to this correct thread?

Nor needed and thanks again Tex, I already saved the info you gave me, much appreciated.

Nickel plated brass tends to crack and split at the case mouth and neck sooner than just plain brass cases.

To be truthful I would just stick with brass cases rather than use any type plated cases.

Thanks bigedp51

I have some that I got a few years ago along with some 7mm bullets in a great bundle price so I thought might as well use them than let'em sit there.

My dad, brother and I used them a while back on our 7mm-08's we used for NRA Silhouette competition, but my dad had done all the load development so I don't have any info on those old loads.

The ones for the 7mm-08 are Winchester from fired factory ammo I had gotten a while back. The 7 RM ones are new Remington cases.

So might as well use them

 

[DUSTY NOGGIN]

lots of lube . when you see it start loosing plating on the necks .. ask yourself where is it going, dies , chamber ??

i tend to think if gets rubbed/flaked off in the die more than in the chamber

although id keep it for someday.. i dont reload anything plated

 

[LVJ76]

lots of lube . when you see it start loosing plating on the necks .. ask yourself where is it going, dies , chamber ??

i tend to think if gets rubbed/flaked off in the die more than in the chamber

although id keep it for someday.. i dont reload anything plated

Thanks Dusty, definitely something to keep in mind

 

[freddiej]

Hi all:

I plan on developing some loads with Nickel Plated Brass for my 7mm Rem Mag and one of my 7mm-08 and I read somewhere that you expect higher pressures, that you need to watch for pressure signs with less powder than with normal brass. Is this true?

Also, will max velocities be around the same than with normal brass or slower?

Thanks in advance for your input

LV, do not, I repeat do not reload nickeled rifle brass it voids the warranty of your dies. the nickeling wears off in the sizing die, collects and starts making your brass look like you have grooves broached in the outside. take it from a man that used to reload nickeled brass (270 win, 30-06, 30-30, and 17 rem) I have had to replace every one of those sizing dies at my expense because the die MFR's will not warranty if you put nickeled brass through their products. only straight wall cases can be safely resized in carbide or titanium nitrite resizing dies.
later tatters.

 

[LVJ76]

LV, do not, I repeat do not reload nickeled rifle brass it voids the warranty of your dies. the nickeling wears off in the sizing die, collects and starts making your brass look like you have grooves broached in the outside. take it from a man that used to reload nickeled brass (270 win, 30-06, 30-30, and 17 rem) I have had to replace every one of those sizing dies at my expense because the die MFR's will not warranty if you put nickeled brass through their products. only straight wall cases can be safely resized in carbide or titanium nitrite resizing dies.
later tatters.

Thanks Freddie, I did not know that. After Dusty mentioned how the plating comes off I started to wonder If I really wanted to use them or not. Now I have my answer

Thanks again

 

[ronstone09]

Hi all:

I plan on developing some loads with Nickel Plated Brass for my 7mm Rem Mag and one of my 7mm-08 and I read somewhere that you expect higher pressures, that you need to watch for pressure signs with less powder than with normal brass. Is this true?

Also, will max velocities be around the same than with normal brass or slower?

Thanks in advance for your input

I just reloaded 60 rounds of 338 am with 225 accubonds for moose and didn't detect any difference between the nickle and brass ! Since this is once fired brass I would anneal the next time before resizing

 

[ronstone09]

LV, do not, I repeat do not reload nickeled rifle brass it voids the warranty of your dies. the nickeling wears off in the sizing die, collects and starts making your brass look like you have grooves broached in the outside. take it from a man that used to reload nickeled brass (270 win, 30-06, 30-30, and 17 rem) I have had to replace every one of those sizing dies at my expense because the die MFR's will not warranty if you put nickeled brass through their products. only straight wall cases can be safely resized in carbide or titanium nitrite resizing dies.
later tatters.

Good to know ! Thanks for the info

 

[LVJ76]

I just reloaded 60 rounds of 338 am with 225 accubonds for moose and didn't detect any difference between the nickle and brass ! Since this is once fired brass I would anneal the next time before resizing

Thanks Ron, good to know no difference then.

 

[TexSavage]

The comment regarding losing warranty on dies is incorrect as far as Redding is concerned. I sent an email in as I had never heard this before. I just got back a reply from Redding and they said:

There is no truth to that. The dies are designed for cases plated or otherwise. Plated cases are hard on case trimmers unless they are carbide as the nickel is much much harder to trim than brass but other than that all other equipment will work the same.


Don Parker
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Additionally, my nickel plated WW brass is beginning to show some nickel wearing off, but thats after 11 or more reloads. Additionally I fully believe the nickel plating is getting thinner due to the fact I clen all my brass with a liquid process using brass pins. I have not seen nor experienced any issue regarding loading nickel plated WW or Federal brass in my 12 years of dealing with it. I have been reloading since 1979

 

[LVJ76]

I actually found another neck die for the 7mm Rem Mag. I had given one to my brother intead of the 7 SAUM and went and bought another one so now I have 2 and I also have 2 for the 7mm-08.

So I'll use the newer ones for normal brass and the older more used for the nickel plated brass