28 Nosler problems

[fmuguira]

B LOT Banga, thank you very much for your offer. Do you have 2 or 3 Nosler unfired cases? That d be enough to try.

Any idea what freight might be? I ll send you a PM.

Thx, Frank

 

[jasonco]

Just took some measurements and it's somewhat on the thick side for my liking.
Fired neck dia - .319
Un-fired neck dia - .314
Fired headspcae - 2.244
Un-fired headspace new - 2.240-2.241
Fired neck thickness - .015-.016
Un-fired neck thickness new - .015-.017
Sized un-fired neck thickness - .015-.017
Fired length - 2.585
Un-fired length new 2.582

I fired 3, for a Satterlee test, using Retumbo/CCI-250/195 EOL 75.5gn (2986) ,75.5gn (3010), 76.0gn (3008). Test sopped after the after the 3rd (76.0gr) sticky case-hard bolt lift-blown primer. The 75.5gn, were just moderately heavy bolt lift.

Took them apart and gonna anneal and retest.

 

[B-LOT Banga]

B LOT Banga, thank you very much for your offer. Do you have 2 or 3 Nosler unfired cases? That d be enough to try.

Any idea what freight might be? I ll send you a PM.

Thx, Frank

5 brand new cases coming your way!! Good luck... aloha

 

[fmuguira]

B Lot Banga, you Sir are a Gentlemen! Thank you so much for your help. People like you are what make the shooting sports a Fraternity and fun to be involved in.

Jasonco, your case measurements near identical to mine. I was only loading 75 grs of Retumbo with 180. 2850 fps and case 'should have' fell out of the rifle. Very excited to try B Lot Banga s Nosler brass. Hopeful that s solution.

I did anneal a couple unfired cases that were neck turned to see if that goes anyway. Will keep thread going for others possible benefit.

Thx guys.

 

[jasonco]

As far as the Nosler brass, I use 26 Nosler, because it plentiful! The Nosler is alright, but you can't run it hard, to get the higher velocity node.

 

[Toolhand]

try bumping the shoulder back .002-.005

 

[John 264]

helping friend break in his new Fierce CT Edge in 28 Nosler. He brought me Hornady cases, Retumbo powder and 180 ELDM s.

Anyway loaded 77 grs for first round shot, bolt was stuck and finally got open but a pop of hand on final bolt lift. Backed charge down to 75 grs and seated bullet back another .100. Cleaned rifle ( barrel showed minimal copper) and fired another round; Ditto, same problem. So cleaned again and loaded 2 rounds and ran over chronograph... 2850 and two more stuck, hard to extract cases. A bullet does not want to fit in fired case, inside diameter around .284. Anyone else ran into this problem?

Thinking brass a little on thick side in neck and chamber possibly on tight side. Case expansion .002 on shoulder and nothing on web, same as unfired.

Looking for suggestions. Thinking I might neck turn a couple new cases and see if that solves problem. Sucks that he bought 200 rounds of Hornady brass; wondering if Nosler or Morma brands wouldn't of experienced this problem.

BTW, brass weighs 258-260
Grs and is roughly .014 thick on the neck. If anyone has a different brand of brass would love to hear your neck thickness.
Thx !

Sounds like you have a fierce problem the gun is out of head space or something is out of spec in the chamber I would send it back to fierce before someone gets hurt

 

[fmuguira]

If factory lights ads show same problem and another brand of brass for reload does same then that's got to be done in my opinion also.

We ll see fairly soon.

 

[brotherbear67]

This may sound dumb, but check your primers. I had this happen with a 28 N almost exactly a year ago. Fed 215m primers, and I was blowing primers, coring primers and stuck cases. Actually broke my firing pin and trigger sear. I went as far as to pull bullets and weigh all charges. Everything legit, dropped charge weight and same thing. Switched primers, problem solved. I can't explain why. I have since used another 100 pack out of that box of 1000 and had no issues. Good luck.

 

[fmuguira]

Brotherbear67.... now that's something I would of never imagined. Using F215M but I ve got CCI250 s here.

What brand of case were you using when the primer issue/change occurred?
Thx

 

[brotherbear67]

Brotherbear67.... now that's something I would of never imagined. Using F215M but I ve got CCI250 s here.

What brand of case were you using when the primer issue/change occurred?
Thx

Was using 2x fired Nosler brass that had been annealed, bumped .003 and neck resized. After trying the reduced grain charges, and still having issues with chambering a fired case, i F/L resized, and went with WLRM primers. Fixed issue immediately. I had F/L resized some 26 N brass (for my 26) and had used some of same primers in those loads and had exact same issue. Switched out primers and issue went away. Hope this helps.

 

[fmuguira]

Thanks for experience. Will try CCI250 or maybe even 200 next loads.

Called Hornady and they asked if I d send them some unfired and fired cases so did that.

Kinda sucky when you re playing with a new rifle and run into these kinds of problems

 

[brotherbear67]

Thanks for experience. Will try CCI250 or maybe even 200 next loads.

Called Hornady and they asked if I d send them some unfired and fired cases so did that.

Kinda sucky when you re playing with a new rifle and run into these kinds of problems

Yup, been there done that. I've felt the sting. I'm actually going to be working up a load for another 28 in a week or so when I go on days off. ADG brass and 570. Good luck buddy, and keep me posted on what you figure out.

 

[fmuguira]

Will do!

Noticed Noslers load data uses WLRM primer ... interesting. I got a call in to Mike in their tech Dept too