Why no bonded version of the ELD-X?

[Predator 22]

Why don't they just make a modern partion? Seems to solve both problems they just have bad bc. Stretch it out a bit and put a tip on it and have at it. Can't really fail up close but the front half could be very soft for distance

A friend and I were discussing this very thing a little over a year ago. I bet it would be a bit expensive but, it would be awesome.
The only bad thing I've heard about the tlr is their definition of expansion is when it opens to caliber diameter. Very cool bullet though.

 

[Don A Parsons]

I use both the ELD-X and M for F Class shooting,,, they are very accurate ,,, or should I say,,, a runner up to the Berger Juggernauts.

Yes,,, the X will expand at low velocities,,, they perform fairly good in thin skin critters,,, so/so on Elk and Moose.

The M works better on the thick skins ,,, lots of shooters in the USA and Canada use the M's since they hold together better than the X on impact,, ,the M boolitz are bone smashing for sure.

The ELD series of bullets are fast to produce,,, accurate,,, and frugal priced depending on sales.

I use Speer Grand Slams after using the ELD series for 4 years ,,, don't get me right or wrong ,,, they work good in many cases for hunting. The reason for me to switch to GS Bullets is they have a proven track record of game harvests in my shooting world on the hunting grounds.

Semi pointed round nose get things done in my up close game harvests.

Most boolitz will do the job,,, distance and where they impact make the difference fore sure.

Cheers from Don

 

[WildRose]

The ELD-X has made quite a splash. Weight retention seems to be the only issue, especially at higher velocities. I have to believe they had a good reason for not bonding it. Can someone smart than I, educate me as to why that might be?

Money. I've got them thinking hard about making some heavy for caliber Interbonds but the ELD-x is already a very expensive bullet to produce and there's just not enough consumer demand for a bonded version so they aren't going to spend the money to make one at least until the demand is there. If/When they do, the bullets will go up in price probably .10-25c each.

 

[cohunt]

Hornady says non-bonded bullets are more accurate, if I remember correctly.

I've never had good luck finding accuracy with any of the interbond bullets, if I want a bonded bullet I default to nosler

 

[FIGJAM]

I was reading more about the Edge TLR last night and it looks pretty awesome. 155gr .284 with 0.61 bc.

 

[Deleted member 107796]

One thing to add is the heavier cladding on this and other bullets like the Swift Scirocco, which controls the peelback of the cladding. Not as much of a need for bonding as with a lightly clad bullet.

I too, would like to see a modern partition with a boattail.

 

[SpeedGoatShooter37]

Do you think it possible to create a modern high BC Failsafe? Barnes has cracked the code in low velocity opening monos. I know the Failsafe is not a mono, but the front part of it as I recall was similar to one.

 

[Kimber7man]

Why don't they just make a modern partion? Seems to solve both problems they just have bad bc. Stretch it out a bit and put a tip on it and have at it. Can't really fail up close but the front half could be very soft for distance

They have. It's called the Accubond.

 

[Idaho Lefty]

They have. It's called the Accubond.

YUP,.. THIS ^^^^ Very accurate ( sub 3/4 MOA in my factory stock, Tikka, .270 WSM ) and the Bullet, did NOT blow up or, Blood shot, the Meat, on my Elk at only, 65-70 Yards going 3,150 FPS! The ABLR is NOT for close range shots, as it's designed to expand at down to 1,300 FPS ( possibly, trying to compete W/ Berger ? ) vs the Reg AB at 1,800 FPS ( a much TOUGHER, Bullet ). The Partitions are great Bullets and very TOUGH but, the AccuBonds are a touch better for, accuracy, on those longer distance, shots.

 

[Huntnaz]

As I read through this I think the idea of a long range partition would be about perfect. The accubond does not open well at low velocities.

 

[Kimber7man]

As I read through this I think the idea of a long range partition would be about perfect. The accubond does not open well at low velocities.

The Partition has the BC of a ping pong ball. Don't know how they'd make it better for long range without pointing it or putting a plastic tip on it?

 

[Methow Packer]

Money. I've got them thinking hard about making some heavy for caliber Interbonds but the ELD-x is already a very expensive bullet to produce and there's just not enough consumer demand for a bonded version so they aren't going to spend the money to make one at least until the demand is there. If/When they do, the bullets will go up in price probably .10-25c each.

Wouldn't it be well worth the extra money. Think about all the expenses we occur for a quality hunting trip. The cost of the bullet shouldn't be the deciding factor. $8000 hunt and a $1.25 bullet???

 

[Methow Packer]

YUP,.. THIS ^^^^ Very accurate ( sub 3/4 MOA in my factory stock, Tikka, .270 WSM ) and the Bullet, did NOT blow up or, Blood shot, the Meat, on my Elk at only, 65-70 Yards going 3,150 FPS! The ABLR is NOT for close range shots, as it's designed to expand at down to 1,300 FPS ( possibly, trying to compete W/ Berger ? ) vs the Reg AB at 1,800 FPS ( a much TOUGHER, Bullet ). The Partitions are great Bullets and very TOUGH but, the AccuBonds are a touch better for, accuracy, on those longer distance, shots.

Agreed AB are the perfect close to 400YD etc bullet. So does a guy carry a LR cartridge that can be changed out as needed and realize the MOA hold difference adjustments? One big PITA. So bullet companys try to make a do all bullet. Tough job for sure

 

[SpeedGoatShooter37]

What about flipping the design of the Federal TLR or Trophy Bonded bullets? What I mean is an all copper front portion, that expands at low velocities like a Barnes LRX, down to a partition that separate it from the remain lead filled portion of the bullet? Lead would help keep the length down for standard bullet weights as compared to an all mono design. Not sure how well it would work from a stability standpoint with lead in the back?