Why no bonded version of the ELD-X?

[SpeedGoatShooter37]

The ELD-X has made quite a splash. Weight retention seems to be the only issue, especially at higher velocities. I have to believe they had a good reason for not bonding it. Can someone smart than I, educate me as to why that might be?

 

[Predator 22]

I thought the eld-x would have been perfect if it were bonded.
One of the reasons I heard they didn't was it may not have been as accurate. I guess the bonding process isn't perfect. The next was cost.
If they would have bonded them I would have been a lot more interested.

 

[Deleted member 103481]

They imply the couldn't get the accuracy they wanted if they bonded it. I have a feeling it's just easier/streamlined the process. Other than a small difference in the amount of lead the eldx and eldm seem extremely similar, plus an interlock ring.

 

[cohunt]

It wouldn't expand as well at lower velocities ....since it is touted as a long range bullet it needs to expand at lower velocities.
If you want bonded, they sell the interbond

 

[Bravo 4]

It wouldn't expand as well at lower velocities ....since it is touted as a long range bullet it needs to expand at lower velocities.
If you want bonded, they sell the interbond

Is this something Hornady said or just a generalized comment towards bonded bullets? The Accubond Long Range is advertised as expanding down to 1300 fps, one of the lowest you'll find in a commercial made cup-n-core.

 

[Canhunter35]

Is this something Hornady said or just a generalized comment towards bonded bullets? The Accubond Long Range is advertised as expanding down to 1300 fps, one of the lowest you'll find in a commercial made cup-n-core.

But the accubond long range is gaining quite the noteriety of exploding up close. A supplier tried to sell me a bunch to use for matches because, his words, "they don't work for hunting if you're too close"

 

[Bravo 4]

Gotcha, but it is possible to make a low velocity expansion bonded bullet. Maybe the middle ground (velocity threshold) is what's needed.
Some say you can't have your cake and eat it too, but with the technology today I think it's very probable. They almost go from one extreme to another.

 

[coop2564]

Im in the process of switching over to ABLR for this very reason! ELDX is accurate but has blewup in close shots! They blew it pun intended! My guess is they will soon come out with new bonded version!

 

[cohunt]

Ablr is a whole nother animal...its pretty explosive at high velocities as it has a dead soft lead core, only way to make it expand that low was the dead soft lead core-- nosler even confirms that it can be explosive at high velocities as that is a "side effect" of the 1300fps expansion threshold.

 

[SilverbulletMAG]

Speculation but, that leaves room for Hornady to introduce another bullet down the road....a bonded ELD-X type bullet. The ABLRs are not much (if any) better than the ELD-X in that regard. They are nowhere near as tough as the typical AB bullet by Nosler but of course that is by design.

I haven't been able to get my hands on any yet but, the new Federal TLR (or the Trophy Bonded Tip, just not as sleek) seem to be exactly what we're asking for in that regard....still expand at long range but hold together up close. On paper, this is about the "perfect bullet" IMO. Not as cheap to shoot as the ELDXs though.

 

[snox801]

Why don't they just make a modern partion? Seems to solve both problems they just have bad bc. Stretch it out a bit and put a tip on it and have at it. Can't really fail up close but the front half could be very soft for distance

 

[Buttermilk]

The ELD-X has made quite a splash. Weight retention seems to be the only issue, especially at higher velocities. I have to believe they had a good reason for not bonding it. Can someone smart than I, educate me as to why that might be?

Hornady says non-bonded bullets are more accurate, if I remember correctly.

 

[SilverbulletMAG]

Hornady says non-bonded bullets are more accurate, if I remember correctly.

That would be a very silly thing for them to say if true...

 

[Canhunter35]

Why don't they just make a modern partion? Seems to solve both problems they just have bad bc. Stretch it out a bit and put a tip on it and have at it. Can't really fail up close but the front half could be very soft for distance

seems obvious, even make a few new, slippery partitions with a tip on them.