Oh god, not another caliber debate thread.

Of those three cartridges, the 28 Nosler is the best choice.

For brass availability, its boring but a 7mm Remington Mag is the best choice.
For speed, a 28 Nosler is the best choice.
For recoil, 7mm Remington again.

Here's a problem with one of your statements. The 28 Nosler can't be the best for speed since it is a shortened 7RUM case.
 
Here's a problem with one of your statements. The 28 Nosler can't be the best for speed since it is a shortened 7RUM case.
Did you read what Mudrunner wrote? He almost got something right. The difference between a 7mm RUM and a 28 Nosler from a 24 or 26 inch barrel will be negligible. I think a 28 Nosler is the best choice.

I think a 7mm RUM is a poor choice regardless of the criteria but under certain conditions it would deliver more velocity than a 28 Nosler.
 
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I would love to shoot a 168gr Berger VLD, but to be honest, I've tried them a few times, and never could get them to shoot straight so Ill probably go with the 175gr ELD.

How fast do you want to shoot it and how far do you want it to reliably expand?
 
Fixed it for ya ;)
I don't think your fix is correct. Research load data that includes pressure and you will find that when a 7mm RUM has more velocity than a 28 Nosler or a 7mm STW, from a 24" barrel, it almost always has more pressure.
 
I don't think your fix is correct. Research load data that includes pressure and you will find that when a 7mm RUM has more velocity than a 28 Nosler or a 7mm STW, from a 24" barrel, it almost always has more pressure.

That's true with everything...you can run a STW very fast if you go by pressures from before the RUM came out. But after the RUM came out the STW magically had a lower pressure rating...

I'll run them all on quickload tomorrow morning and report back.

What powder and bullet should I compare?
 
How fast do you want to shoot it and how far do you want it to reliably expand?

I would think shooting a 175 AMAX around 3000-3100 shouldn't be an issue. As far as what range do I want expansion, to be honest I'm still in the learning curve on that. Ive shot match's with a 260AI for years, but I never cared if my 142gr SMK expanded or not. I cant imagine Ill ever shoot any game much (if any) north of 700 yards.

I live in Indiana, and we just allowed high power rifles for deer. I took my 308 as a quick fix last year, and will do the same again this year because I have a Bear hunt in Oregon in a few weeks so Ill be all practiced up with that round. Id like to get something I can shoot over the winter and get accustom to, then have it be a "do all" hunting rifle.
 
I would think shooting a 175 AMAX around 3000-3100 shouldn't be an issue. As far as what range do I want expansion, to be honest I'm still in the learning curve on that. Ive shot match's with a 260AI for years, but I never cared if my 142gr SMK expanded or not. I cant imagine Ill ever shoot any game much (if any) north of 700 yards.

I live in Indiana, and we just allowed high power rifles for deer. I took my 308 as a quick fix last year, and will do the same again this year because I have a Bear hunt in Oregon in a few weeks so Ill be all practiced up with that round. Id like to get something I can shoot over the winter and get accustom to, then have it be a "do all" hunting rifle.

Honestly...it's not "as cool" but, I would say an old 7mm Rem Mag and shoot the 162gr ELD-X...For under 700 yards I don't see where going bigger will be worth it...unless you just want bigger and there's nothing wrong with that either lol...that's why I have a 6mm that has nearly 70gr capacity, needed nope but pretty badass ;)
 
I would agree that I dont need to, but in I'm doing a custom build I see no reason not to go with the best caliber. If for nothing else a little forgiveness in range estimation.
 
I still hate the fact that nosler shows there load data for the 28 nosler and a 168 with a 26 inch tube and lists the most efficient powders and runs it at 70000+ and does a jaggaloon test for the 168 in the rum with a 24 incher and leaves out the most efficient powders and the cartridge data is 180 fps off, kind of crooked if you ask me. I had a 28 throated long and a 7 rum throated the same for the 195 and I still have the rum, todays powders and bullets the big powder columns are getting their legs
 
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