I carry the tipi and stove every time I'm planning on staying out over night. My outfit including my sleeping bag and sleeping mat weighs between 10 and 11 lbs. Now I admit this is advertised weights, never really put it on a scale, but it doesn't feel too bad. I'm a little long in the tooth and have been on a fair amount of back country pack trips. Some with stock and some just back packing. I learned a few years back that being wet and cold just isn't fun for me anymore and when you're in the mountains there is no telling what mother nature can and will through at you.