Good points. I suspect @dogz knows his way around rifles and elk…. Maybe filled an ark or two…. And maybe with a Swift?
Thoughts on Hammers on elk (out of a 6.5 CM)
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yes you're correct in that elk come in many sizes and shapes. However, it's been my experience that the real world the diff between the thickness of the ribs and or the shoulder blade between them just isn't enough to sweat it.
Plus I've ran enough bullets from my 22/250 and Swifts thru shoulder blades to know that it just isn't that tough to punch thru them. Not at all saying that smallish rounds like these are a good place for many to go towards for elk for what's that worth..........
Just saying that big elk small elk there just isn't much diff in reducing them to the deep freeze.
The only remotely formidable bone on a shoulder elk is the knuckle, and in 43 years of elk killing and in being around elk killed I've seen it hit once and that was with my 270 and a 130 Sierra BT and it punched right thru and killed her just fine. Good bud who's killed a ton load of big bulls has hit it once, with a 165 Horn Bt out of his .308. That bullet punched right thru and flattened the bull...
Elk killing isn't rocket science unless one chooses to make it such! I've found that those that try to make it rocket science have a relatively small amount of elk work to their resume.
Now getting them back to the truck can be a whole nuther game
Way cool job on the elk!
"DWD" (darn well done)
I think that if you shot with me a bit you'd find me to most days be fairly handy with any of the 3 guns. Generally that is, like everyone I have my days
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I'll say this. If you are deadly accurate with that rifle and you are running at least 130 grains or better I say go for it. I built my wife a 6.5creedmoor before we moved to Montana and I had built myself a 6.5prc for a match rifle that i could use on heavy wind days and not have to hold so far off the plate I let her shoot the Creedmoor and then she asked about the prc. And then she asked which one had more velocity. She told me she didn't want the Creedmoor. So I sold Creedmoor and now she shoots that heavy PRC for everything It's a laser she's killed a pile of animals with it. If I had only one caliber from now until end of time. And one bullet. 156 bergers. Getting 3085 out of them in 26inch hawk hill with Thunderbeast can on it.
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Getting them back to the truck it a different story for sure.yes you're correct in that elk come in many sizes and shapes. However, it's been my experience that the real world the diff between the thickness of the ribs and or the shoulder blade between them just isn't enough to sweat it.
Plus I've ran enough bullets from my 22/250 and Swifts thru shoulder blades to know that it just isn't that tough to punch thru them. Not at all saying that smallish rounds like these are a good place for many to go towards for elk for what's that worth..........
Just saying that big elk small elk there just isn't much diff in reducing them to the deep freeze.
The only remotely formidable bone on a shoulder elk is the knuckle, and in 43 years of elk killing and in being around elk killed I've seen it hit once and that was with my 270 and a 130 Sierra BT and it punched right thru and killed her just fine. Good bud who's killed a ton load of big bulls has hit it once, with a 165 Horn Bt out of his .308. That bullet punched right thru and flattened the bull...
Elk killing isn't rocket science unless one chooses to make it such! I've found that those that try to make it rocket science have a relatively small amount of elk work to their resume.
Now getting them back to the truck can be a whole nuther game
I wouldn't recommend a 6.5 cm for an elk. The chance for a quick and ethical kill goes down exponentially with this caliber vs say a 7mm mag or a 6.5 PRC.
bigngreen
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You realize a 6.5 Creedmore and 6.5 PRC are the same calibur right, just a little launch speed difference with the same bullets?!?!
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Here's 4 bullets. Two of them are 6.5 and two are 7mm. One 6.5 is a 140 Berger shot at creedmoor velocities and one is a 140 Berger shot at 3000fps. One 7mm bullet is a 160 grain accubond shot at 3250 FPS and one is a 168 grain accubondlr shot at 2900fps. All pulled from elk. All elk died with no drama. Tell me which bullet is which.
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1500 ft lbs of energy is just the kinetic energy of the mass moving at that velocity. How does that affect the elk?
great pics, what amazes me is how tough some people try to make killing out to be..........it's just not rocket science!
Side note Laker, I saw a bruiser bruin this spring in "that" place that we looked over a while back
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One of these years I'll have to get back out there.great pics, what amazes me is how tough some people try to make killing out to be..........it's just not rocket science!
Side note Laker, I saw a bruiser bruin this spring in "that" place that we looked over a while back
