PingGong3
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I've talked to some people that say the targets are better on tough game because they have a thicker jacket and can penetrate a little deeper before exploding. Has anyone tested this or found this to be true? Thanks
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Thoughts on 180gr VLD Targets vs Hunters on Elk
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PingGong3
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Im Also referring to the 7mm 180gr bullet, just to clarify.
I have the hybrids on hand, how do they compare as well?
I have the hybrids on hand, how do they compare as well?
deadidarren
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What range was that ...... around 600
I think the 180 hybrid is the peak of efficiency from most 7s. I've shot the 168s plus many other 7s as well as the 215/230 bergers. I've found the 230 hybrid to hold up better than the 215 after shooting several with each. I'm running the 180 target hybrid at 2850 from a short barreled saum. Only killed a few deer and hogs so far but it's deadly.
I will say that I shot a bull elk with a 230 at 547 yards last year with a mv of 2980. Perfectly placed shot just tight to the shoulder center punching both lungs. We found the base of the jacket and a few fragments on the off side skin. He didn't take a step but somehow rose to his feet and received a second bullet high shoulder. His lungs were completely mushed.
I'm having a hard time deciding which to take this year on a muley hunt. Both hold .5moa to 800.
I will say that I shot a bull elk with a 230 at 547 yards last year with a mv of 2980. Perfectly placed shot just tight to the shoulder center punching both lungs. We found the base of the jacket and a few fragments on the off side skin. He didn't take a step but somehow rose to his feet and received a second bullet high shoulder. His lungs were completely mushed.
I'm having a hard time deciding which to take this year on a muley hunt. Both hold .5moa to 800.
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PingGong3
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That is what I'm planning to build is a 7saum with an 18-20" barrel because I will be running it suppressed. What speeds can I expect to get with the 180? I have H1000 and H4831SC with ADG brass and CCI250, Fed 210 and Fed 215 primers I can use.
I'm running a 21 inch suppressed saum with a .195 freebore. I hit 2900 and was a 100% capacity with H1k, 210Ms, 180 hybrids and adg brass. Best accuracy came at 2850.
From what I've read that's on the fast side for this combo.
From what I've read that's on the fast side for this combo.
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PingGong3
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I'll be happy with 2800-2850fps. Sounds like I can get that with a 20".
180 Hybrids:
My son I I shot 2 elk this past fall with them. His was like 360 yards mine was 380. His pretty much dropped in tracks. Mine did the stumble thing and went down 1 second later. His MV was 3,050' mine was 2,930'
Shot numerous deer with the very devastating. Hogs destroys them.
I think of the 180 Hybrid just as much as the 215 Hybrid in 30 cal.
My son I I shot 2 elk this past fall with them. His was like 360 yards mine was 380. His pretty much dropped in tracks. Mine did the stumble thing and went down 1 second later. His MV was 3,050' mine was 2,930'
Shot numerous deer with the very devastating. Hogs destroys them.
I think of the 180 Hybrid just as much as the 215 Hybrid in 30 cal.
PingGong3
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Great Bc I shoot 215's out of my .300wm and love them.
You should hit 2,850' easily with N560 or N565. I'm guessing in that shorty N560 will be the better of the two. I load 6 of the 7 SAUMS currently and I've found these two powders to be Golden! If they don't work I'd try RL26. It's a great powder also in it, but I'm 95% sure the first two will be the ones.
PingGong3
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All I have is H1000 and 4831SC. I'll have to make those work.
H1000 will do it.
You should pressure out around 65 grains or so. It will be about 75' slower than the other two. Do yourself a favor and find the two powders I mentioned. They really are the ducks nuts for that cartridge.
