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That was based on my Strelok App with his components.
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Thoughts on Hammers on elk (out of a 6.5 CM)
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beretzs
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Great thread.
I've never used a 6.5 CM on elk but when my little man gets old enough to follow me into the hills I'd not hesitate him using a 6.5 CM with a decent bullet under the watchful eyes of Dad.
As Dober mentions, putting a good bullet on point is probably 95% of the hunt.
I've never used a 6.5 CM on elk but when my little man gets old enough to follow me into the hills I'd not hesitate him using a 6.5 CM with a decent bullet under the watchful eyes of Dad.
As Dober mentions, putting a good bullet on point is probably 95% of the hunt.
Scotty, who is the Dober you speak of???? grins
laker
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Can't believe he's going to shoot a 6.5 creedmoor instead of taking out the mashburn
ahahaha. old "Dogz" can learn new tricks... right @dogz ?
bigngreen
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Your math is bad!!
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No, it's spot on with his components. Verified velocity behind a labradar. 140gr SST, 0.52 G1, 2,690 fps, has about 1,500 ft/lbs @300.
I don't have loyal customers by giving crap advice.
Granted, if his load was different, he could get a little better #'s, but that wasn't the question. On elk, I wouldn't recommend that load past 300. I recommend a minimum of 1,500 on elk at whatever range you and your rifle are capable of.
If you want to take elk at less energy, that's up to you. Doesn't mean less won't work, but I want to dump as much energy as possible into an elk in the first shot.
I personally shoot a 300 prc on elk. Backup rifle is a 308 norma.
I don't have loyal customers by giving crap advice.
Granted, if his load was different, he could get a little better #'s, but that wasn't the question. On elk, I wouldn't recommend that load past 300. I recommend a minimum of 1,500 on elk at whatever range you and your rifle are capable of.
If you want to take elk at less energy, that's up to you. Doesn't mean less won't work, but I want to dump as much energy as possible into an elk in the first shot.
I personally shoot a 300 prc on elk. Backup rifle is a 308 norma.
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Wyo37
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Just curious but what differences have you discovered from 1,500 ft/lbs of energy vs say 1,000 ft/lb?
Elk cover a pretty wide range of sizes. I'd be a lot more willing to take a 6.5 Creedmoor on a cow hunt than a trophy bull hunt. 6.5 Creedmoor can definitely be effective on elk, but you'll need to consider the range you intended to shoot and the size of the animals you expect to encounter.
beretzs
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Uh, ah, ehhh, some old goat I've heard of. Pretty heavy into stunt shooting I've heard. LOL!
I hear you there Laker…. I guess he's just tired of ripping the earth out from under them and wants to give them a more sporting chance! LOL
Deans
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I've read this before somewhere
" it's the bullet, not the headstamp "
" it's the bullet, not the headstamp "
ManzellaPrecision
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What kind of shooter are you ? That's the question. 6.5CM is just fine for elk if you are true to your personal abilities. If you can make the shot at 500 yards and put it in the boiler room. Then by all means. An elk is just a big deer. And it's all about shot placement. I'd definitely use a game bullet with a good jacket. I have no experience with those hammer bullets. I do have customers that use then but not beyond 400 yards as they lose speed and have a tendency to drop off for accuracy. (Per my customers telling me so if you know different then let us all know). Elk get killed with all sorts of calibers out here in Montana where I live. 243 22-250 22creedmoor 22mag. You don't need "knock down power" like some guys say. That's just a crutch for poor shooting skills.
My wife who was 9months pregnant at the time killed a cow at 652 yards with 6.5prc shooting 140's at 3110fps in the castle mountains. Wind as 18mph 9 o clock
Cow went 10steps and dropped.
So how good are you with the rifle? And can you put it where it needs to be. ?
My wife who was 9months pregnant at the time killed a cow at 652 yards with 6.5prc shooting 140's at 3110fps in the castle mountains. Wind as 18mph 9 o clock
Cow went 10steps and dropped.
So how good are you with the rifle? And can you put it where it needs to be. ?
Andrew Massi
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Nice shooting and agree that knock down power is a myth established by gun writers to sell rifles and ammo. But that cartridge and bullet choice are magnitudes above a cm and mono bullet. Like 1/3 the wind call and 300% more disruptive to that cows organs.
