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Discussion in 'Reloading' started by FEENIX, Feb 6, 2018.
For what it is worth ...
Anybody wanna buy some neck sizing dies?
LL! Luckily, I only have one neck sizing die.
I have several NS dies, they have all had the neck portions honed to the exact size I want so that I can adjust NEW brass to my specs. Some need an expander that runs .0005” larger than the die neck, but they’re lubed with graphite anyway.
I couldn’t justify buying Bushing dies for EVERY cartridge I load for just to make sure my new brass has round necks.
A bushing is useless for dented necks anyway.
Don't Know what the dude said all I had was a silent film. I have always just neck sized only, my magnum calibers and have never had any noticeable problems with the cases have loaded some when doing test loads 10 times or more. I only use them for deer hunting, one is a 300 win. mag. that's a carry gun. The oldest is a 308 Norma mag bench gun that is a real shooter out over 1300 yards. This is what I was taught by guys at the Original 1000 yard bench rest club of Williamsport PA. I know they do things that a lot of other people probably don't do or wouldn't do, but they were shooting many 10 shot groups at 1000 yards that were under 6". As far as I know that's all that any of them did, and many of them barely started to resize the neck very little just enough to keep the bullet from falling out, they then finish seating the bullet inside the rifle against the lands. This was to ensure they were all uniformly seated against the lands and they would be shot then. They were all competition shooters. I may have at the most had a split neck or two but I don't even remember any of them yet. I get a lot more cases going bad with two calibers that I full length resize and they are my 30-06 and a 222. I have even had them start to show hair line cracks mid case but they were loaded many times. I believe the case will weaken faster from full length resizing than from neck resizing only. Its like bending any other piece of metal back and forth enough times it will break, much like a soda can tab.
Neck size vs. Full length size.
is the same as
Republican vs. Democrat.
If you are a snowflake, full length size away....
Hahahahaha. Just kidding.
Age old debate. I'll stick with what works for me and not tell anyone. Oh wait, I already did. Tell what works for me that is....
I think that's the bottom-line. I tried neck sizing but went back to full sizing.
I have watch a few of Erik Cortina's reloading videos and I find them very helpful ... sure would love to have some of his fancy and expen$ive stuff though.
You neck size with reloading -regardless of die.
You understand this when you learn the basics of reloading.
Sure some body taper/shoulder bump makes the bolt closure/opening easier. The BR guys go that route because they don't want to fight the bolt to get their shots off all at once and not disturb the rifle with their free recoil setups.
I don't mind the resistance on my 20 lb 6 BR as I shoot it for fun and varmints. Sure some day I may have to bump the body taper/shoulder. In the meantime I can load up a bunch really fast. Doubt I can improve on the 1's I am getting now.
To do any body sizing you have to lube the case. Then you have to clean the case. When working up a load for one of those rifles, pulling bullets and neck sizing is very easy and fast.
Using a bushing allows you to tune the neck tension.
Redding's FL/bushing might be the best offering if you want to (partial)FL size and fine tune the neck tension.
A fitted FL die with neck dimension you require is good but again you have to lube. I have a 30 BR that uses the RCBS FL die without a sizer ball. I turn the necks to match the die for a .002" fit.
I admit to only neck sizing a few cartridges because my hunting rifles must function without any bolt closure issues.
I follow Eric, I went to collet, body dies and FL bushing dies.
This debate.... is like the barrel break in debate!
It’s hard to argue with that huge stack of medals Eric has.
I haven't had a reason to neck size only.
I use both full length and neck sizing depending on the particular chamber/load/use. While I FL size for the majority of my loads, I do have high accuracy loads that are neck sized with an understanding of the brass dimensions /effect with each firing. For those who are casual reloaders, or new to reloading(and particularly the guy in the video), FL sizing may be the better choice. I would expect this debate will continue for some time to come.