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Shooting w/bad shoulder
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That's tough. I don't have shoulder issues yet. I would try a 6.5. Something like a Creedmoor or 260 rem. I would make it a medium weight rifle and put a break and a good recoil pad on it. Then maybe wear one of the protective shoulder pads that some of the big bore boys use. A 6.5 Creedmoor will take an elk for you at reasonable distances.
I have Creedmoor on a 14 lb. long range rifle without a break. I could (almost) put it to my nose and pull the trigger.
Good luck.
I have Creedmoor on a 14 lb. long range rifle without a break. I could (almost) put it to my nose and pull the trigger.
Good luck.
It's probably not what you want to hear but I would consult with your doc if I were you. I had rotary cuff surgery a few years ago and I also had signs of arthritis too.
http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f22/had-shoulder-surgery-93972/
All is good now. Good luck!
http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f22/had-shoulder-surgery-93972/
All is good now. Good luck!
HARPERC
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It would depend on how you wish to use a rifle?
hammer111
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Well Dr says I need a shoulder joint replacement but I'm too young. I'm looking at a 260 nosler actually ,waiting for them on order.
But I have a 280,12ga, 20ga,. The shoulder pad sounds good but I don't know what kind, I have a stock pad haven't used it yet.
Those might help, thought there might be ideas I don't know of.
But I have a 280,12ga, 20ga,. The shoulder pad sounds good but I don't know what kind, I have a stock pad haven't used it yet.
Those might help, thought there might be ideas I don't know of.
mtwarych
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I have the same exact situation with my shoulders and just about every joint in my body.
I have my beloved Ruger #1 in 7mm mag and can barely shoot it once or twice before I will start flinching.
What I have done to help myself out is a limbsaver butt pad and a recoil pad that is worn underneath clothing. I think it is the PAST recoil pad meant to be worn by women attached to the bra strap. It sounds wimpy but it makes shooting the 7 possible for a handful of shots.
I don't know why, but, I refuse to use a comp.
I have decided to buy a DPMS GII Hunter in .308. I shoot it with mild 7.62X51 loads. I have an adjustable gas block on it and an extended Magpul recoil pad on it. I can shoot the rifle all day long without great discomfort.
I have also decided to reload my 7 down to mid .270 velocities and I believe I will be able to handle that power just fine.
I work with the understanding that a while back, people actually humanely killed all North American game with a 30-30 rifle. One does not need a magnum type rifle that shoots a 3 or 4 pound projectile at 3200 fps to kill a deer. We need to shoot a weapon that doesn't hurt us bad and be honest with ourselves about our ability and the ability of the weapon we are carrying.
I have my beloved Ruger #1 in 7mm mag and can barely shoot it once or twice before I will start flinching.
What I have done to help myself out is a limbsaver butt pad and a recoil pad that is worn underneath clothing. I think it is the PAST recoil pad meant to be worn by women attached to the bra strap. It sounds wimpy but it makes shooting the 7 possible for a handful of shots.
I don't know why, but, I refuse to use a comp.
I have decided to buy a DPMS GII Hunter in .308. I shoot it with mild 7.62X51 loads. I have an adjustable gas block on it and an extended Magpul recoil pad on it. I can shoot the rifle all day long without great discomfort.
I have also decided to reload my 7 down to mid .270 velocities and I believe I will be able to handle that power just fine.
I work with the understanding that a while back, people actually humanely killed all North American game with a 30-30 rifle. One does not need a magnum type rifle that shoots a 3 or 4 pound projectile at 3200 fps to kill a deer. We need to shoot a weapon that doesn't hurt us bad and be honest with ourselves about our ability and the ability of the weapon we are carrying.
HARPERC
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Have you considered the bolt action "handguns"?
In a similar position, broken collarbone on right side, have a knot on forward side. Released to return to work recently and skipped hunting all together for this year. Doc recommended starting small. Is tough when you have several rifles begging to go to the range. Will see what happens as spring walks in
hammer111
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Thanks guys for everyone's response. I like the bra pad idea I'm not too proud to try one.
Call me a traditionalist I like shooting rifles, although I was considering hunting with a hand gun but that to the government I'm not going to subject myself to that ordeal.
Can a break be added to a gun. Might have to consider that too. But I bet the surgery would be cheaper.
Call me a traditionalist I like shooting rifles, although I was considering hunting with a hand gun but that to the government I'm not going to subject myself to that ordeal.
Can a break be added to a gun. Might have to consider that too. But I bet the surgery would be cheaper.
mtwarych
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A break/compensator can be added to a rifle by a good smith.
I believe that with the recoil pad would help you greatly. I believe if you have a favorite rifle it would be cost effective to add a comp to it.
I don't have any reason to not comp a rifle, I just believe I should shoot what I can handle.
Good luck with your shoulder, if you can, go to a reputable arthritis specialist. It will amaze you what can be done for you to help with your joints. I waited way too long thinking I had gout and then finding out I have had degenerative arthritis since I was 27. I am 53 now and every joint in my body except for my spine is badly worn and arthritic. Don't waste any more time. you will regret it as I do.
Edit to add, I know for a fact, shooting a "powerful" handgun with your arms extended will make parts of your body crawl up into dark warm places. I don't know what a shoulder replacement costs, but a full knee will run you about $260,000 plus or minus ten to twenty thou.
I believe that with the recoil pad would help you greatly. I believe if you have a favorite rifle it would be cost effective to add a comp to it.
I don't have any reason to not comp a rifle, I just believe I should shoot what I can handle.
Good luck with your shoulder, if you can, go to a reputable arthritis specialist. It will amaze you what can be done for you to help with your joints. I waited way too long thinking I had gout and then finding out I have had degenerative arthritis since I was 27. I am 53 now and every joint in my body except for my spine is badly worn and arthritic. Don't waste any more time. you will regret it as I do.
Edit to add, I know for a fact, shooting a "powerful" handgun with your arms extended will make parts of your body crawl up into dark warm places. I don't know what a shoulder replacement costs, but a full knee will run you about $260,000 plus or minus ten to twenty thou.
mtwarych
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I don't know what a gunsmith will charge to install a comp on a rifle.
I would guess the price of the comp plus labor and refinishing.
I will search around the web and see what I can find out.
In the mean time, would you post the question of price on the gunsmithing forum on this website?
After previous searching about comps, I believe comping any of your rifles would reduce felt recoil to almost nothing. I think the hardest part would be finding a comp the works the best on the calibers listed. I also understand that a smith installed comp is not very expensive. I would guess somewhere between 3 and 5 hundred dollars. Money well spent.
Good luck and I'll be back.
John Warych
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I would guess the price of the comp plus labor and refinishing.
I will search around the web and see what I can find out.
In the mean time, would you post the question of price on the gunsmithing forum on this website?
After previous searching about comps, I believe comping any of your rifles would reduce felt recoil to almost nothing. I think the hardest part would be finding a comp the works the best on the calibers listed. I also understand that a smith installed comp is not very expensive. I would guess somewhere between 3 and 5 hundred dollars. Money well spent.
Good luck and I'll be back.
John Warych
Semper Fi
Living your nightmare now. 4 fused vertabrae in neck and right rotator surgery that is taking a long time to heal.
I switched to a 20 ga slug gun (TC Encore) long time ago and lot flatter than 12 and less kick. Added some lead to the butt to help. I have taken deer at 200 yds with it.
Sold all my magnums and just built a 6.5-06 AI that I will run the 130s around 3000 fps. No need to go any more. Gun weighs 10 lbs with scope.
My lightweight stand rifle is a custom 7-08 with 120 Btips and very little recoil. However, I only load it to around 2900 as my shots are normally 200 yards or less and I use a fiberglass stock. The glass stocks have less felt recoil versus wood in my experience. The recoil pulse has a difference more tolerable feel.
On the bench I use a wearable PAST pad ($30) that soaks up a lot of the recoil for my shoulder. It is not just for women, this one fits like a shoulder holster and slides on and off. I have had it for years and just dug it out. I am going to use it in an Ohio deer hunt in two weeks with a KP-1 45-70. I loaded the 325 Hornady Ftips to around 2000 fps and that is more than enough.
Muzzle brakes can be very effective but the better ones have an inverse relationship with recoil reduction vs loudness. they will require hearing protection at all times using them. Cost will generally run $150 to 250 depending on the brake and the gunsmith.
The Holland Radial baffle brakes are pretty reasonable price and tested very high with recoil reduction in the PSR tests recently. I have used them a lot on my magnums.
The limbsaver pads work extremely well and I would use them with the wearable PAST pad over the muzzle brakes.
PAST Pad $20 http://www.midwayusa.com/product/68...zWbIDDJ4cVTAhzvTXt7RbEKqW-LRAJuy6AaAmdu8P8HAQ
I switched to a 20 ga slug gun (TC Encore) long time ago and lot flatter than 12 and less kick. Added some lead to the butt to help. I have taken deer at 200 yds with it.
Sold all my magnums and just built a 6.5-06 AI that I will run the 130s around 3000 fps. No need to go any more. Gun weighs 10 lbs with scope.
My lightweight stand rifle is a custom 7-08 with 120 Btips and very little recoil. However, I only load it to around 2900 as my shots are normally 200 yards or less and I use a fiberglass stock. The glass stocks have less felt recoil versus wood in my experience. The recoil pulse has a difference more tolerable feel.
On the bench I use a wearable PAST pad ($30) that soaks up a lot of the recoil for my shoulder. It is not just for women, this one fits like a shoulder holster and slides on and off. I have had it for years and just dug it out. I am going to use it in an Ohio deer hunt in two weeks with a KP-1 45-70. I loaded the 325 Hornady Ftips to around 2000 fps and that is more than enough.
Muzzle brakes can be very effective but the better ones have an inverse relationship with recoil reduction vs loudness. they will require hearing protection at all times using them. Cost will generally run $150 to 250 depending on the brake and the gunsmith.
The Holland Radial baffle brakes are pretty reasonable price and tested very high with recoil reduction in the PSR tests recently. I have used them a lot on my magnums.
The limbsaver pads work extremely well and I would use them with the wearable PAST pad over the muzzle brakes.
PAST Pad $20 http://www.midwayusa.com/product/68...zWbIDDJ4cVTAhzvTXt7RbEKqW-LRAJuy6AaAmdu8P8HAQ
