Shilen vs er shaw

Discussion in 'Rifles, Bullets, Barrels & Ballistics' started by timmymic, Apr 17, 2013.

  1. timmymic

    timmymic Well-Known Member

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    Which of these manufacturers is better for a pre fit 700 action?? For a long range 6mm br
     
  2. MudRunner2005

    MudRunner2005 Well-Known Member

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    You want a barrel or action? I assume barrel....

    If so, Douglas, Kreiger, Brux, Broughton, Shillen, Rock Creek, Obermeyer, any of these will make an awesome barrel.

    I have heard some horror stories about the insides of the ER Shaw barrels...
     
  3. sinarms

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    Out of those 2 Shilen is way better. I would have to be hard pressed to use a shaw from all of the ones I have fixed/thrown away for customers.
     
  4. shortgrass

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    +1 For Shilen. "Pre-Fit" isn't the best for LR. And from my perspective, by a Hart and have it 'custom fit' and chambered to your action. LR and "drop-in" shouldn't even be in the same sentence.
     
  5. westcliffe01

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    I disagree with this opinion. In many locations, having a blank chambered, profiled and crowned can cost more than a high quality prefit and then you still have to pay for the blank too. In addition, a perfect blank can be ruined during chambering or fitted poorly to the receiver. If you happen to have a fabulous local gunsmith who carries blanks and does an expert job of finishing them, then one is indeed fortunate. Most of us however are not that fortunate. I am very grateful to have vendors like Shilen who do all the critical operations in house and on CNC equipment for profiling and threading.

     
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    We'll have to aggree to disagree, then . Pre-fit 'll never be anything but second best! The good chit ain't cheap.
     
  7. Joel Russo

    Joel Russo Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely concur!

    You get what you pay for in this game. Pre-fit, universal, one size fits all...are all okay if you are willing to accept that standard of quality and accuracy.
    It's pretty convenient to find a qualified custom riflesmith that will take care of all the critical operations for you with your action in hand. There are a few of those guys on here as sponsors....commercial carriers make shipping easy.
     
  8. westcliffe01

    westcliffe01 Well-Known Member

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    Yes... ? Well my 16 week investment with Mc Gowan yielded nothing except 16 weeks without my rifle and some of my money. I'm afraid there is nothing sure about anything right now. If you can really afford to wait 6 months to a year to get your parts, fine. I got my Shilen select match barrel in 2 days and I don't think I gave up anything.
     
  9. timmymic

    timmymic Well-Known Member

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    Where did u get the shilen from?
     
  10. westcliffe01

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    NorthLand Shooters Supply. They advertise on the Savage Shooters Forum.
     
  11. timmymic

    timmymic Well-Known Member

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    I emailed him but his inventory didn't show any 6mm br Norma's they had it for savage but not the 700
     
  12. westcliffe01

    westcliffe01 Well-Known Member

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    Don't waste your time with Email. Its a 1 man operation and he gets a million emails. Call him during CST business hours (MN) and he will get you straightened out right away. He was due to get in a delivery about now. He basically guesses what is selling well and places orders and gets in 10-20 a time in popular calibers.
     
  13. timmymic

    timmymic Well-Known Member

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    Ok awesome thanks a lot for your help!
     
  14. westcliffe01

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    Do you already have a Rem action ? Rem actions are not that straight forward. Sloppy machining, skew and tapered threads, non floating bolt head etc etc. With a Savage action, you can screw in the barrel, set the head space and start shooting. With a Remington, the receiver almost always needs work, if you have a good local smith, he will accurize it for about $250. Then generally the barrel tenon needs to be custom made for the receiver since it will be oversize.

    Thats basically the reason why the market for Rem prefits is so small. OTOH, if you get a stiller or similar custom action, they are precision machined, don't need any accurizing and will all take the same size barrel tenon. Thats what the custom rifle builders are generally doing...