Scope selection dilemma!

Discussion in 'Long Range Scopes and Other Optics' started by Juano86, Jun 13, 2018.

  1. Juano86

    Juano86 Member

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    G'day Guys,
    I have just purchased a Howa 1500 in a GRS stock in .243 and have a few scope selection dramas. Im trying to shoot this out to 1000yrds so im looking for a decent optic under $1000... im tossing up between the Ziess Conquest HD5 5-25x50 (RZ1000 reticle), the Sightron SIII 6-24x50 (MOA-2 reticle) or the Nightforce SHV 5-20x56 (MOAR reticle) All are around the same price here in Australia.
    Is the Sightron in FFP or SFP and what is the total usable MOA i can expect from each? im trying to come up with a combination of rail, rings and scope selection that will let me adequately get to shooting 1000yrds. I do prefer SFP however. Open to all opinions and suggestions.

    Cheers!
     
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  2. HARPERC

    HARPERC Well-Known Member

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    I haven't went wrong with Night Force yet. No experience with the others.
     
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  3. jpd676

    jpd676 Well-Known Member

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    I have two Sightron SIII's in 6-24, SFP and love them! They have 100 moa of travel, glass is great and the tracking is spot on. Nightforce is a good choice also as well as the Zeiss but I drank the Sightron coolaid.
     
  4. hnt4elk

    hnt4elk Member

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    Drank the Sightron Kool-Aid myself. Have 2 SIII (Both have MOA-2 reticle) & a S-Tac. They sit on 28 Nosler, 6.5 Creedmoor & a 6 Creedmoor. Great scopes, especially for the money! All of them track great. In fact I’m looking to get a 3rd SIII for another 6.5 Creedmoor. Yes, I also drank the 6.5 Kool-Aid. I’m a SFP fan myself. All 3 brands you mentioned are good scopes.
     
  5. Barrelnut

    Barrelnut Well-Known Member

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    I use a Sightron III 8x32 with the MOA 2 reticle and a Zeiss with the RZ1000. For 1K shooting you need a good dialing scope with a MOA/MIL type reticle. My RZ1000 reticle is really only good to 500, maybe 600 yards. I use it on hunting rifle or quicker 4~500 yards shots. There are just too many variables for a RZ1000 reticle at distance. Elevation changes air density, etc.

    Sightron III is a popular budget minded scope. They have Japanese glass and are popular in F-Class comps and such.

    Don't know about the SHV. I sure it and the Sighton would give each other a run for their money. I would just stay away from the RZ1000 unless you need it for quick longer shots on game.
     
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  6. Beardeddeer91

    Beardeddeer91 Well-Known Member

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    I have used several of the Nightforce SHV and loved them for the $. I have shot some of my buddies SIII, and personally would pick the SHV. The SHV just seemed to have more clarity and I liked the build of the scope itself more (this is just my opinion). I have no experience with the Zeiss so I can’t comment there. Any of those scopes should be able to get you to 1000 though without much issue and with very adequate performance.
     
  7. Juano86

    Juano86 Member

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    I really appreciate the feedback, this forum is such a wealth of experience and knowledge.
    Starting to lean toward the sightron after the positive comments. Should I be looking for a 20Moa rail? Are the nightforce rail and rings a good combination?
    Thanks again.
     
  8. Weatherby Fan

    Weatherby Fan Well-Known Member

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    Check out the new Zeiss Conquest V4 Line , I have two of them, 4-16x44 and 6-24x50, tough as nails, brilliant optics and zero loc MOA turret, SFP,

    I have the 4-16x44 zeroed at 100 yards on my 6.5 PRC, it has another 52 MOA of adjustment up from my zero so no issues shooting to 1000 yards if desired,

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  9. gohring3006

    gohring3006 Well-Known Member

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    Three very good choices.
    Three very hard choices.
    You can’t go wrong with either, if I was choosing, I would go SHV
    Sightron
    Zeiss.
    Just my personal rate.
     
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  10. Hondo64d

    Hondo64d Well-Known Member

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    I had a Zeiss HD5 that failed in me. Lost zero then would not track correctly and couldn’t be rezeroed.

    John
     
  11. Canhunter35

    Canhunter35 Well-Known Member

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    My stac and buddy’s siii track spot on as does my Zeiss conquest. I have no experience with nightforce, but would choose your favourite mil or Moa reticle as major criteria in choosing. For practical purposes, the sightron glass will run with the others
     
  12. Juano86

    Juano86 Member

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    Thank you all for your input. I think ill go the Sightron Siii. seems like a good option for the money & has the features im after. I will keep you updated once i get it all together and ring some steel!
     
  13. fiftybmg

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    Depends on the load trajectory, range, and adjustment capability of the scope.

    Generate a trajectory table for your load, and see what the drop is at the range you need the scope for.

    Say your drop is 50 MOA at that range, then you will need a scope with 100 MOA adjustment capability. That means it can track 50 MOA up and 50 MOA down.

    If you have a 20 MOA rail, then a scope with 60 MOA total adjustment gets you to the same range as a scope with 100 MOA adjustment on a normal rail.