Now come on Bill....what exactly do you mean when you say..."You can't kill your game DEAD"...HOLY HELL...!!!!! How many have you loaded ALIVE! At my age it's hard enough to load the dead ones!I think B-Lot Banga explained this best. I did not know the OP was looking to buy a new gun. In this case buy a rifle chambered in a crtrage that will shoot heavy bullets. Make sure the barrel ofsaid rifle is rifled to stabilize heavy for caliber bullets and have fun. Always remember you can't kill your game to dead. In most cases a heavy bullet kills better but damages less meat. What chambering are you looking at for your new rifle.