Practical Hunting Accuracy - Truth and Reality

[quigley257]

A video that I came across discussing the real everyday accuracy of hunting rifles. We all know the guys that throw the cliche's out there when discussing rifle accuracy.

 

[Rosebud]

Yep, watched that couple of days ago. I was telling my hunting buddy about it. We both have rifles that will shoot sub moa three shot groups with consistency. Five shots, eh, not so sure. Next range session I will find out.

 

[shinbone]

Personally, I think Jim Harmer's video is spot on.

 

[LRNut]

Interesting choice of words when he described the 800 yard shot - unethical.

 

[akmtnhnt]

Yep, watched that couple of days ago. I was telling my hunting buddy about it. We both have rifles that will shoot sub moa three shot groups with consistency. Five shots, eh, not so sure. Next range session I will find out.

Then you don't have a 1MOA rifle. 3 shot groups don't tell you anything.

Hornady did a similar podcast. I think they recommend 50 shot groups to start to see actual statistically significant evidence of anything.

 

[Barrelnut]

Think all of those rifles would have shot better off of a good set of bags vs a bipod on a hard surface.

 

[akmtnhnt]

Interesting choice of words when he described the 800 yard shot - unethical.

If you can take your rifle out, and take a cold bore shot, only 1 shot on any given day on an 8x8 target and hit it at 800 then I don't think it is.

 

[BillLarson]

I will not shoot 5 shot groups at a time outa any gun I intend to keep and hunt with....
IMHO 3 shots is more than needed...... 2 is even better.....
I cannot understand the purpose of it......
If your shooting 5 shots at one animal you are praying,,,,

 

[victor3ranger]

A true cold bore shot is what you are going to do in hunting, if you have everything exactly like you want it, take it out the next day or two and send a round out to the 6-7-800 just to prove the rifle is true

 

[Brad Quarnberg]

If you can take your rifle out, and take a cold bore shot, only 1 shot on any given day on an 8x8 target and hit it at 800 then I don't think it is.

Just to clarify that is 8"x8", right?

 

[Mikecr]

I could pull any hunting gun out of the safe and take that loser's money to 500yds.
I suspect he would double down $$ on 1/2moa as well.
I don't care how many shots

 

[cajun]

5 shots in succession without adequate time to cool the barrel is tough for a normal hunting rifle with a sporter barrel or even a little heavier profile. This is why all these accuracy guarantees are 3 shot groups. Personally I've never shot 5 times at any critter. 3 shot groups are fine as long as you shoot enough of them. This has been beat to death a bunch. As for Hornadys 50 shots. Well if you shot 50 times for every change during load development you would shoot the barrel out or use up a lot of it's life. I heard a podcast with Erik Cortina and a custom high end rifle builder who also shoots 1000yd BR. They said pretty much the same thing.

 

[akmtnhnt]

Just to clarify that is 8"x8", right?

Unless you know of an animal with 8'x8' vitals.

 

[Rosebud]

Then you don't have a 1MOA rifle. 3 shot groups don't tell you anything.

Hornady did a similar podcast. I think they recommend 50 shot groups to start to see actual statistically significant evidence of anything.

My concern is where the 1st shot lands. I'm A hunter first, target shooter second. I've never had to fire five shots at a deer in my life. I also agree that my rifle may not be, or the shooter may not be 1 MOA. As long as my number one shot hits where its aimed, I'm good. If you're trying to prove that people who claim their rifles shoot MOA all day long as I've seen in writing, are full of it. Congratulations, you have succeed.