Talk about wearing a subject out - this is it. But I suppose it will never be a dead horse. I want to hunt elk and deer in the Rockies where 300-600 yds is not uncommon. I'm really looking hard at the 300 Ultra Mag and love the ballistics. Then I look at the 270 Win and the ballistics (velocity, trajectory, and energy)really look good considering the HUGE decrease in RECOIL. My groupings started to suffer after about the 15th round with my old 7MM Mag, I assume from (I know real men should probably deny this)flinching. Any council from you seasoned hunters?