rustyshackleford
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What altitude is that? when I tried those numbers in JBM using hornady's G7 BC at 2700 fps at 8000 ft ASL I didn't get velocity/energy numbers that high.
Ok I am not a big fan of the 6.5 Creedmore
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What altitude is that? when I tried those numbers in JBM using hornady's G7 BC at 2700 fps at 8000 ft ASL I didn't get velocity/energy numbers that high.
Canhunter35
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You could just say the moon, lol
FIGJAM
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10,000 ft - its set at where we hunt in idaho...what numbers are you getting?
rustyshackleford
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I live in AL so my 1st numbers were at ~1000 ft ASL. Typically when talking about elk I run numbers at 4500 ft. At 4500 it makes it to 500 with 1500 ft/lbs
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FIGJAM
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Its usually the guys that didn't grow up in elk country that start the rumors that they are bullet proof. I have been elk hunting since I was 7 - so about 30 years. Most of my family shot 270s and a few shot a 243. Why? No idea, but they didn't a have a problem putting meat in the fridge. I guess that is why I laugh so hard as these guys who claim you have to have at least a 30 cal magnum to kill elk. They aren't that tough - use some common sense on shot placement and know the effective range of your cartridge. I have already said in another thread that I am going to leave all my magnums in the safe this fall and hunt elk with my 260 rem, just so I can hop on here and tell the story. The one in my avatar was taken at 430 yards with my 270 wsm. The 300 rum, 325 wsm and 300 weatherby all got left in the safe last fall. In fact, after seeing how well my 270 wsm performed I see no need for a 30 cal or bigger anything for elk size game. Shoot what you want, but stop being ignorant to how easy it is to kill an elk.
FIGJAM
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I didn't mess with my son's ballistics since they are set at the elevation where we hunt in Idaho. I have never bought into the min 1500ft lbs to kill an elk - i still wouldn't hesitate to shoot an elk at 600 yards even with your numbers - 1350 ft lbs is plenty.
MudRunner2005
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1,000 ASL in Alabama, you must be up in the northern 1/3 of the state up around Bankhead where the Appalachians end (Birmingham or higher). I'm at around 600' ASL in central AL.
bigngreen
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This is my daughters 6.5 Creedmore 147 eldm load at 24.4 station pressure. This is why I have zero issues whackn an elk at 6 hundy with it! That's a 20 mph wind by the way.
FIGJAM
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Running the numbers at 4500 would do me no good. Typical hunting elevations for us usually run from 8000-11000 unless we are driving just outside of town for an evening deer hunt. Otherwise we are up high on horseback....
Creedmoor shooter
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9.5 moa must be for a fairly stiff wind at 1000.
MudRunner2005
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With those numbers, even at 800, you'd probably be ok, but I don't think I would push it any farther than that. Isn't 1,300 lbs.ft. the minimum they recommend for elk?
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This has been the most perplexing part of this forum to me. I grew up watching elk killed and killing elk with 270s, 243 and even once saw a 22-250 knock one down at 400 yards. In the end they are just flesh and bones like every other living thing. Not to long ago on this forum I saw someone say his 325 wsm was min he would take elk hunting...smh. Man people must think elk are tanks or something. I shoot a 280 AI or 28 nosler but wouldn't be worried about using something smaller especially on cows.
FIGJAM
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Also - all you guys that claim you made a perfect shot with something less than a 30 cal magnum and the elk ran off, trying to support your belief that it takes a magnum to kill an elk...you made a bad shot...it wasn't the gun or the cartridge or the caliber, it was the ******* pulling the trigger.
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