Living in Indiana we have only been able to Deerhunt with Shotguns with-slugs, muzzleloaders, Handguns and Rifles in pistol calibers. But this year things have changed, we now use center fire rifles in 243 and 30 caliber. Why those 2 options, I don't know? So I found a Remington788 in 308 for my next Deer Rifle. When I was a kid, my friends dad had one in 243, and this thing was incredibly accurate. At 100 yards it would shoot 1 ragged hole with factory ammo. I've always wanted one, they were a inexpensive rifle back in the day, nothing fancy at all, the stock is made of birch with no checkering at all. But from what I've read on the internet my friends dads rifle as no fluke when it came to accuracy. I found one at a gun show for a fair price, and since I can now deer hunt with it I decided to purchase the gun. I put a Vortex 3-12 Diamondback HP on it, loaded up some Hornady 165 gr SSTs with CFE 223 and headed to the range. After sighting in at 50 yards, I moved to 100 yrds, at 100 yards the first 3 shot group was under 1/2 inch, WOW!! I had several other loads I had and nothing was over 1 inch. A friend gave me some Barnes Vor-Tex factory ammo in 150 and 168 gr TTSX, the 150s shot right at 1/2 inch, the 168 was at 3/4 inch. Very nice for factory ammo. So I've found my new Deer hunting rifle, and I'm going to use the Barnes 150 gr TTSX. So if anyone is looking for a inexpensive, very accurate rifle that you don't care if it gets beat up, check these out if you come across one, not pretty but these things shoot!!