Need some help, very confused, trying to load some hammer hunters

Discussion in 'Reloading' started by BeaverHunter, Feb 10, 2019 at 5:21 PM.

  1. bigngreen

    bigngreen Well-Known Member

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    If you take the same case and it fits without a bullet fine then has issues with the bullet just give trimming a try on that case, I spent some significant time on this exact same problem and it was solved with a .005 trim and chamfer. Worth a try.
     
  2. birdiemc

    birdiemc Well-Known Member

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    Well that's easy. Set up your sizing die, and bump back the shoulder .001" at a time until it chambers, use the method I just described to measure how far you are moving the shoulder back when you rezise
     
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    If your were eventually able to close on the case with a bullet but seating was way deep it's not a sizing issue though you may have that going on as well.
     
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    This is the most accurate and consistent method for finding the lands exactly.

     
  5. BeaverHunter

    BeaverHunter Well-Known Member

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    I don’t have a comparator body bigger than a 30. But I should be able to screw my sizing die in approximately 1/8 turn at a time until the brass will chamber correct?
     
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    This is the method I use. Works 100% of the time.
     
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  7. BeaverHunter

    BeaverHunter Well-Known Member

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    I think that’s cool also but I think it’s a brass sizing issue. Especially since I can’t close the bolt on my non loaded freshly resized brass. I’m pretty sure I’ve found my lands(at least to within.008) using the Hornady tool.
     
  8. NEMTHunter

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    Quoted to bump these posts. I agree If seating the bullet deeper lets you close the bolt then its not resizing problem with that piece of brass. There is a chance the brass is to long and as you seat the bullet deeper you are pushing the OAL of the case back a little and thats why its closing. Just a thought. Its not the bullets.

    On a side not. How hard are the bullets seating in the case?
     
  9. BeaverHunter

    BeaverHunter Well-Known Member

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    They seem to seat like normal. Not to hard or easy. But again I’m not a seasoned reloader. I’ve probably only reloaded 500 bullets total. Mostly 300 win. Didn’t seem different than any other time. I think I’ll trim all these cases and see what that does. Is that where you think I should start?
     
  10. bigngreen

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    Just pick on case that fits and use it to solve the seating depth issue, then use a tight case to set the resizer. Don't go nuts on all your cases till you solve each issue then you can set up and rally and have consistent brass and seating.
     
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  11. NEMTHunter

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    I had problems closing the bolt on my brass some worked good others did not. Turned out all it took was a little trimming and then feed perfectly now. AND my brass was not over the max length given it was in fact under it. My chamber must have been tighter.

    Post #24 has good advice. Find apiece that works and then compare it to the ones that do not.
     
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  12. BeaverHunter

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    Same here. I measured mine and they’re all under max length. In fact many are under the trim to length still. Thanks for all your help.
     
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  13. BeaverHunter

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    Good idea. Thanks for the help. This site and the people on it are awesome.
     
  14. shphtr

    shphtr Well-Known Member

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    Two things, first maybe it is just the picture but it does not appear like your 30 cal insert is all the way seated - sort of canted. And second are you SURE that when you insert the hammer bullet to determine the COAL that it is fully inserted to determine the max depth or COAL. I have been using the same system a long time, since back when it had just been developed by Stoney Point and sometimes the little thumb screw will hang up on the inserting rod so that it feels like the bullet is touching the lands when it actually is not. This would result in too short of a reading. It is also possible to push too hard, resulting in too long of a measurement. I take MULTIPLE readings and then take what appears to be the most common/average. Sometimes one or two of my readings will be way off and therefore obviously in error. It is a good system but there are multiple other ways to come up with the info you need. I find the Sinclare system hard to follow. As noted previously, make sure your cases are less than max length. Good luck.