How to talk father into spending money on quality set-up?

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  1. jasonprox700

    jasonprox700 Well-Known Member

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    My dad is looking at purchasing a 6.5 CM because of what he has read, which I agree with because he currently hunts with a .308 BAR and a Rem 700 7mmRM. I love Browing bolts, their handling, and their accuracy. But their BAR has a LOT to be desired in terms of accuracy, and my father's rifle is no different. He sent it back to Browning for them to figure out what's going on. Also, unless he's using ear pro, the 7mm causes tinnitus that effects him for weeks.

    I totally agree with going with the 6.5 due to ballistics and lack of recoil. We'll also be submitting form 1 paperwork for a suppressor. I already have a trust, so we'll be adding it to my trust, along with his name. We've been looking at rifles and he's undecided. He doesn't really have a budget yet, but I think he only wants to deal with a factory rifle. He's ok with spending $1500-1750, but he's dragging his feet on optics. I own what I consider mid-range optics ($500-$1000) that would be a great fit for him, but he's not sure since some of his cheaper optics have served him well for years. I am running a Zeiss HD5 3-15x42 on my soon to be .280AI that I think would be a good fit or their HD6 or something similar.

    My question is, how do you get them to drop the coin to get what you know they really want and will enjoy, but have a hard time spending the money on? Money has always been a concern for him, but he is debt free between personal belongings and his company, so I'd like him to enjoy life a little.
     
  2. jaeger19

    jaeger19 Well-Known Member

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    By a good scope for your dad and tell him he now has the money to buy a good gun. And show him a cooper in 6.5 cm
     
  3. jasonprox700

    jasonprox700 Well-Known Member

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    I’d love to, except for the fact that I’m raising 3 kids and all of the expenses that go along with them make it a bit difficult to drop money like that.
     
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  4. Mike 338

    Mike 338 Well-Known Member

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    In the art of persuasion, of which I am no expert for sure, the trick is not to convince anyone of anything but to make it their own idea. Also, it's never you job to convince him of anything but rather give him enough information so he can make an informed decision. Take a decently accurate rifle with a very good scope, already zeroed and take it out to 600 yards and let him shoot it. Ring steel if you can. Then pull the scope and rings off and slap on another budget scope with rings (should be previously zeroed too). Confirm that the scope is on and run it out to 600 yards and see how he does. Then slap the first scope on, confirms that it's on and do it again so the point sinks in. A gloomy day with so-so light will better show the difference in scopes. Then go back home and grill up some nice steaks and let him chew on the steak and how he shot that day.
     
  5. jasonprox700

    jasonprox700 Well-Known Member

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    I let him look thru my VX6 and my Zeiss HD5 this morning. Usually if I plant the seed, he’ll think on it for awhile, then usually go with it. We’ll see.
     
  6. FEENIX

    FEENIX Well-Known Member

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    Is the $1500-1750 rifle only or for the entire set-up?
     
  7. jasonprox700

    jasonprox700 Well-Known Member

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    Just the rifle. I talked to him about it last night at my daughter’s bday party. I think he’s ready to spend what he needs to to get the set up he wants.

    As for rifles, he tried out a Browning Hell’s Canyon Speed and loves it.
     
  8. FEENIX

    FEENIX Well-Known Member

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    Have you considered CA's Mesa in 6.5 CM MSRP $1295>>> https://christensenarms.com/mesa/

    Pair it up with SWFA 3-15x42 on sale for under $400 >>> https://swfa.com/swfa-ss-3-15x42-tactical-rifle-scope-6.html

    It really boils down to his personal preference and budget. As long as he is happy with his choices, that's all it matters. I wish I had the opportunity to hunt with my Dad before his passing. Enjoy your time with him.

    Cheers!
     
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  9. HARPERC

    HARPERC Well-Known Member

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    Keep in mind a lot of us old guys get sticker shock cause we remember what prices used to be.
     
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    hometownhero Well-Known Member

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    Don't have to be that old to get sticker shock. I get it every time I walk into the gun store and I have only had a gun license for 6 or 7 years now.
     
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    Shane Lindsey Well-Known Member

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    You get what you pay for. Buyonce cry once...or twice.
     
  12. flowhnun63

    flowhnun63 Well-Known Member

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    Whenever my daughter wants something from me or her mom and she is really desperate she put on the sad-pitiful-cry-tears dropping looks. She look a like homeless kiddy kids no one can say no to.
     
  13. metal308

    metal308 Active Member

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    He can consider a vortex PST its mid range and really nice too
     
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  14. Capt RB

    Capt RB Well-Known Member

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    This is why I just purchased my first nightforce. I was set to buy a Vortex when a customer at the shop I frequent brought in the very model I was going to purchase for repairs. Like Tommy boy said I can crap in a box and mark it guaranteed but all you have is a box of guaranteed crap