Hammer Bullets in ML

[QuietTexan]

Trying to "follow all the rules" on the first attempt - 300gn .458 Shock Hammers in MMP 50x458 sabots.

I have five other sabots and four other bullets to try to see if something can be made to work, and I have ideas on engraving the bullets to try to hold into the sabots better, but out of the gate I'm going to be unimaginative and try to keep my face un-rearranged by an accident. I have a stack of Cutting Edge bullets to try also.

All failures resulting from this are my own, don't try to steal my credit and blame Steve when this doesn't work out

 

[ButterBean]

I'm in, lets see what happens

 

[Ross1147]

I tried this endeavor 2 years ago and failed. Was trying to go the sabotless route though. I tried swagging down the .458 and then the .452. The copper was just a hair too hard to do that. I even threw one inside my salt bath annealer to heat it up to see if that softened it and nope. Was going to switch ML and is my 50 with sabot but didn't want to take the scope off so I swapped over to a Barnes. Good luck and let us know!

 

[Shane Lindsey]

Following.

I have used the CE in mine with the Harvester Green Sabots. It kills.

 

[std7mag]

Trying to "follow all the rules" on the first attempt - 300gn .458 Shock Hammers in MMP 50x458 sabots.

I have five other sabots and four other bullets to try to see if something can be made to work, and I have ideas on engraving the bullets to try to hold into the sabots better, but out of the gate I'm going to be unimaginative and try to keep my face un-rearranged by an accident. I have a stack of Cutting Edge bullets to try also.

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All failures resulting from this are my own, don't try to steal my credit and blame Steve when this doesn't work out

Any range results yet?

I picked up a Traditions Strikefire inline in 45 caliber.
Thought about using 40cal Hammers or CEB.

 

[QuietTexan]

No reports yet, sorry. Had a storm blow through the last time I was at the ranch and didn't get any shooting done.

 

[thork91]

Try Thor bullets, made for caliber, 50 cal is a 50 cal, no sabot, they'll send yo three bullets , you fit to your barrel, soft brass shoots great.

 

[SouthLoganCountyShooter]

Tried 250g .408 in hcrs in my 45 smokless. That's a no go.

Still no results?????? I'd run these in my wife's 50. If they work.

 

[SouthLoganCountyShooter]

Still nothing??????

 

[338 dude]

Would most muzzleloaders have the appropriate twist rate to support copper monos ?

 

[std7mag]

Would most muzzleloaders have the appropriate twist rate to support copper monos ?

Hmmm.
THAT is a good question!!!!

I would assume that the bullet manufacturers would list a twist rate for different weight bullets.

The last thing they would want is people complaining about accuracy issues!!

 

[std7mag]

Try Thor bullets, made for caliber, 50 cal is a 50 cal, no sabot, they'll send yo three bullets , you fit to your barrel, soft brass shoots great.

Soft brass, or copper without a sabot, would still be a PITA to load!
Copper would be the easier of the two to get the rifling to engrave.

 

[Mark37082]

This is why I spend so much time on this forum. The level of experimentation is just amazing. Hats off to all of the mad scientists on the forum.

 

[ENCORE]

Soft brass, or copper without a sabot, would still be a PITA to load!
Copper would be the easier of the two to get the rifling to engrave.

Not quite sure I fully understand the above ?

A properly sized bullet should not be a PITA to load. An improperly sized bullet could.
"Rifling to engrave"? Obturation takes place upon ignition.