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Good bipod & silencer
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MudRunner2005
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It's a "suppressor" not a "silencer"... I know people call them silencers, but that is incorrect terminology.
"Silencer" insinuates that it makes the gun silent. "Suppressor" means it quiets (suppresses) the report of the weapon, which is what they actually do.
Sorry, just one of my pet peeves....Kind of like when people say "clip" when they mean "magazine".
"Silencer" insinuates that it makes the gun silent. "Suppressor" means it quiets (suppresses) the report of the weapon, which is what they actually do.
Sorry, just one of my pet peeves....Kind of like when people say "clip" when they mean "magazine".
Thanks for pointing that out to me. British English (BrE) is a second language to me, and I'm not that familiar with American English (AmE).
In BrE a "silencer" is a device that reduces the sound of a fired gun (per Oxford) wheras a "suppressor" is a gene that suppresses another gene (medicine) or a device in an electrical appliance that suppress unwanted signals, audiovisual especially.
I have noticed that AmE have gone from "suppress" (stifle/subdue/silence, originally to put down by force or authority) and a US manufacturer would call their products/devices "suppressors", whereas a European manufacturer would say "silencer" (the technical manuals use "silencer").
As language must be seen in a cultural context and you say "silencer" insinuates that it makes the gun silent (in AmE), the word "suppressor" could perhaps be cultural modesty as US models tend to cost more, weigh more and have a lower dB reduction than the current generation "silencer" here??? I do not know, and wish not to speculate further.
I don't know. I tend to use silencer/suppressor/moderator as synonyms, switching between the words depending on what is deemed suitable on the various forums.
Thanks again for pointing it out, I have switched to AmE and will use "suppressor" on this forum.
MudRunner2005
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It's all good my friend...You can call it what you wish, either way is fine. I guess we both learned something today. I had no idea the brits called them silencers, as compared to our term for them.
I had not previously been aware you were not here in the states, as I had not watched your video. My apologies.
I had not previously been aware you were not here in the states, as I had not watched your video. My apologies.
CRaTxn
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The Rest of the Story...the reason this terminology has "morphed" over the decades is the Gun Control crowd wants to take our weapons away and ...they use whatever nefarious attributes to weapons they can. For instance a "silencer" would allow a criminal to quietly assassinate , murder , rob without being detected. To more properly connote the operation of the noise reduction device and tie them to hearing protection and lessening the sound impact of our sport on neighbors and the environment...we have tried to parse our terminology to be more politically correct. This, in my opinion, is why Brit vs US terminology has differed.
I am aware that ROE also shares LRH knowledge on his own Norwegian / international YouTube site Longrange Blog that is very supportive of Len's wonderful source of knowledge and discourse.
I am aware that ROE also shares LRH knowledge on his own Norwegian / international YouTube site Longrange Blog that is very supportive of Len's wonderful source of knowledge and discourse.
trucraft
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We call them Moderators over here in the UK
Nothing silent about them. They reduce a gun from bloody loud to just loud.
Great tools, have one on all my rifles. Only gripe is they ruin the balance of a nice weapon.
Nothing silent about them. They reduce a gun from bloody loud to just loud.
Great tools, have one on all my rifles. Only gripe is they ruin the balance of a nice weapon.
MudRunner2005
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How much paperwork do yall have to go through for those over there? What's the wait time? Do you have to submit paperwork, fingerprints, photo ID's to Scotland Yard?
Seriously, I'm curious how to know how it works over there, vs how it is over here.
I know they don't like yall having any sort of modern weapon (AR-15, AK-47, SKS, etc...) over there in England, just curious how they handled Class III items like Suppressors and SBR's, and such.
No paperwork, bought over the counter.
Weight is 3-400 grams for our models.
Price around Usd 250-600.
Most people here chop 4" off the barrel to avoid shift in balance and cancel 1/2 to 2/3 of the added weight.
For hunting, the lost V0 gives no palpable difference in effect.
Weight is 3-400 grams for our models.
Price around Usd 250-600.
Most people here chop 4" off the barrel to avoid shift in balance and cancel 1/2 to 2/3 of the added weight.
For hunting, the lost V0 gives no palpable difference in effect.
trucraft
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Sound Mods has to be stated on our firearms certificate for each one we plan on owning.
When applying for a new caliber or new weapon it is almost expected that you will want a silencer on that paperwork.
Once thats signed and in your hand as Roe said they are an over the counter purchase.
When applying for a new caliber or new weapon it is almost expected that you will want a silencer on that paperwork.
Once thats signed and in your hand as Roe said they are an over the counter purchase.
MudRunner2005
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Are there rifle and caliber limitations over there?
