belted mag resizing die

Discussion in 'Rifles, Bullets, Barrels & Ballistics' started by Bob S., Nov 1, 2004.

  1. Bob S.

    Bob S. Well-Known Member

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    Has anyone tried the collet resizing die from innovative technologies? I was wondering if it works. Is there something else on the market that does the samething? I am about to start reloading belted magnum rounds for the first time. I have read about the swelling/thinning problem just above the belt and want to do what's necessary to avoid any split cases.
     
  2. Crispin

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    The Innovative Tech die is the only tool I know of that deals specifically with the belted mag case bulge problem. It solves the problem easily, extends case life significantly and is worth every dollar.
     
  3. dbhostler

    dbhostler Well-Known Member

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    I have used this die on a factory rifle in 7 mag for about a year now. It will resize a case within a couple of thousands of new case dimensions. This is really not that important unless you use the same loads in different rifles and if the chambers are within specs, a FL die will work as well.
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  4. Bob S.

    Bob S. Well-Known Member

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    Any idea where I can get one?
     
  5. dakor

    dakor Well-Known Member

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    Cabelas has them.

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  6. larrywillis

    larrywillis Well-Known Member

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    Fellow shooters,
    Check our website www.larrywillis.com for more info on this unique resizing collet die.

    Everyone that uses a belted magnum caliber needs one . . . sooner or later. Here's a list of comments I've received from customers that use our belted Magnum Collet Resizing Die.

    "I always use the Belted Magnum Collet Resizing Die when handloading the 7mm Remington Magnum, .300 Winchester Magnum, 300 H&H, 8mm Remington Magnum and .350 Remington Magnum. This die solves the case bulge problem that is inherent with handloading belted magnum calibers. It's a great feature for this one die to work on all of the popular belted magnum calibers. This extra reloading step avoids getting to the range (or experiencing horrors in the field!) and discovering that your handloads won’t chamber.
    This unique resizing die extends case life and ensures proper chambering. Many of us (me included) want our brass to last for as many firings as possible. I also like the exceptionally clear and concise directions that came with the die".

    - Craig Boddington
    Paso Robles, California


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    "I tried your belted magnum collet resizing die on several different belted calibers. I also tested it with a 7mm Rem. magnum using the same (2) cases. After resizing them in an ordinary full length resizing die they measured (.513"-.514") just above the belt. After using your collet resizing die the case diameter measured approx. .510" above the belt. I shot and resized them 5 times each. There was certainly no question that your collet die reduces the case forward of the belt. It is a well made product in attractive packaging".

    - David Tubb
    (11 time National High Power Champion) Texas


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    "I have a new Ruger #1 rifle in 300 Win. Mag. that has outstanding accuracy. I planned to neck size the cases, but I found that after 2 or 3 firings the cases wouldn't rechamber, even after using a full length resizing die. I just had to discard the cases. I assumed that the chamber might be out of round but I didn't want to return the rifle to Ruger and risk loosing such great accuracy. Then I read about your new collet resizing die and realized what my problem actually was. Now I use my 300 Win. brass many, many times and they all drop in the chamber like new. My 7mm Rem Mag has improved also".

    - Neal Davis
    (Advertising Exec) Stanbury Park, Utah


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    "My Son and I have many belted magnums in our collection and we have been handloading for 4 generations. Your new belted magnum collet resizing die is the slickest gadget that we have in our tool box. We use a Redding full length resizing die first, then we use your collet resizing die to remove the bulge just above the belt. If the collet sticks on the case, I just invert the case, stand it on the shell holder and push it back into the body of the die "gently" and the collet pops right off".

    - Richard Hummer
    Phillipsburg, NJ


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    "Your Belted Magnum collet resizing die works great. If you come up with any more innovative products, be sure to let me know".

    - Herbert J. Stumpf
    (Machinist) Sacramento, California


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    "A friend of mine recommended your belted magnum collet resizing die, so I got one for my .358 Alaskan (this brass is not cheap). There is no question that this die does the job. No more case bulge problems like I had in the past. Your die is easy to setup and use and it will save me money in the long run. Thanks for an EXCELLENT product".

    - Bill Yendrzeski
    Essex Jct., Vermont


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    "I've been reloading for 25 years and I am very pleased with your belted magnum collet resizing die. Your die has saved me a lot of money. If you come up with another invention please let me know".

    - Timothy Dunn
    Forestell, Missouri


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    "After using your die for a short period of time, I have recovered the cost of my die. My cases now last 10 times longer because the case bulge no longer renders the brass useless. The improved feeding and extraction will now give me a reliable rifle for hunting. Thanks for a great product"!

    - Art Bosley
    (Technology Director) essex Junction, Vermont


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    "I have resized all of my .300 Win. Mag., 7mm Rem. Mag., and .338 Win. Mag. cases. I noticed that all of my cases were beginning to bulge above the belt after a few reloadings. I have great confidence that your belted magnum collet resizing die has done it's job. I think that you have a winner and wish you the best of luck in the sale of your product. I told a friend of mine in Portland, Oregon about this new die and now he owns one".

    - Larry G. Olson
    (Retired) Pleasant Hill, Oregon


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    "I had troubles with a .416 Rem. Mag. that seemed to have a large chamber. I could only reload my cases one or two times before they would become bulged above the belt and would not fit back in the chamber. Now I use your collet resizing die to put my brass back into specifications and it works great".

    - C. Sardeson
    Blanchardville, WI


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    "I am real pleased with the die. I read your article in Precision Shooting and figured I'd give it a try. I've been using it on two different 300 Win Mags and one 375 H & H. The first time I resized a case I was dreading getting the collet off but was pleasantly surprised! All in all, it's a very nifty product that I intend to continue using".

    - Michael B. Bundy
    Katy, TX


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    "Thanks for such an excellent product. I recently purchased one of your collet resizing dies to use on a customers .350 Rem. Magnum. He was only getting 2 reloadings per case because full length resizing his cases would at best bring them down to .515" at the web, which was too tight to fit in his chamber.
    This is where your excellent product comes in. Your collet resizing die reduced the case diameter to .510" and this has increased case life dramatically. I have been reloading for over 20 years and have never used a tool that amazes me as much as your Belted Magnum Collet Resizing Die".

    - Jason Perryman
    (Production Manager) Sooner Reloading Supply
    Brunswick, Georgia


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    "Due to sticky chambering & extraction problems, I needed a solution to avoid pitching cases after only a couple reloadings. I used your Belted Magnum Collet Resizing Die and Viola; problem solved. These symptoms have been totally eliminated on two of my .338 Win. Magnum rifles and my .416 Rem. Magnum. I now have a year's worth of experience with your die and I can honestly and fully recommend it to everyone out there that reloads belted magnums. Thanks for making a quality product that addresses such a widespread problem. You have a first class product in this die and its design. In fact, I was so impressed, I bought a spare"!

    - Paul R. Hart
    Shelley, Idaho


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    "UPS delivered my die today that was ordered from Midway. Ran right out to my gun room, put it in my Rockchucker, slathered on some Imperial and pulled the handle down. It works as advertised and is beautifully made to boot. Love working with tools like these. Thanks for your efforts in developing this great tool. The go no-go gauge in the top of the die is a great idea"!

    - Roy Jackson
    Reno, Nevada


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    "I received your die via UPS yesterday ... it is Most impressive!! I cleaned it with solvent, mounted it in an old Rockchucker, lubed everything well with Imperial Sizing Die Wax and gave it a good ringing out. I went thru all my belted cases and managed to salvage several boxes of different calibers that were designated for the scrap bucket. My compliments on your design, and fabrication ..... both are FIRST CLASS!! Thanks for a wonderful product"!!!

    - John Porter
    Austin, TX


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  7. Holmes

    Holmes Well-Known Member

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    I've been reloading belted mags for many years with no worries.

    Perhaps I am doing something wrong?!

    Holmes
     
  8. larrywillis

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    Holmes,
    The problem comes after you reload a belted case 2 or 3 times. The pressure ring (just above the belt) fails to get reduced by ANY conventional resizing die, and it becomes too tight to chamber properly (sometimes impossible).

    It doesn't matter if you full size, neck size or whatever. Your belted cases are never getting resized at the pressure ring, and eventually they will stick in your chamber. You don't have to try your handloads in another rifle to see this happen.

    This can best be proven by measuring your case diameter at the pressure ring. Most shooters never measure this area, and they rarely count the "exact" number of times they've reloaded their cases. One day they will wind up at the range and find that their handloads won't chamber. I've seen many shooters that could barely close their bolt because of this.

    The U.S. Secret Service was one of our first customers, and the Belted Magnum Collet Resizing Die is now used all over the world by more than 1,300 customers.

    - Innovative
     
  9. kraky

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    I never had a problem with belted mag reloading. I had no need for the die and probably wouldn't need the die today but I started loading for a friend that had several custom 300 wby's. The chambers on those particular guns appear to be at the very outside of saami spec and the let the brass expand to the point that when resized the bulge appeared. I bought the die and it works wonderfully. It paid for itself quickly because I salvaged hundreds of once fired wby brass worth about $1 ea. If you plan on reloading for the one belted mag you own you most likely will not need to spend the money. If you might someday own quite a few guns or swap brass with someone you may be very glad it's out there. It is definately a quality die and works great.
     
  10. larrywillis

    larrywillis Well-Known Member

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    Kraky,
    You might want to read the article that Craig Boddington just published in Guns & Ammo magazine. It's in the November issue, on page 33. He explained our Belted Magnum Collet Resizing Die very well. The only problem is that our R E A L phone number is 407-695-2685.

    - Innovative
     
  11. hekin.308

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    Dragging up a thread that is almost 5 years old.. What are folks thinking in regards to the Belted Magnum Collet Resing Die ? Been reloading the .338 for a little while with cases that are 3-4x fired. So far no worries. ?? What am I missing?

    Thanks!