30-06 R Stief

[Harry Knutz]

Hello,
I am wondering if anyone has any info on this case 30-06 R Stief? I would like to know what brass can be used to form this cartridge? The 7x65 R is close but a couple thou smaller at the head. I build rifles using rimmed cartridges, I know it sounds foolish, But that's what I do, And like. Please respond if you know anything about this round, Thanks, Hairy.

 

[Harry Knutz]

Google brings up nothing.

 

[FEENIX]

Google brings up nothing.

PT&G makes .30-06 R Stief CIP (Commission Internationale Permanente) reamer. They might be able to help you. Good luck.

Ed

 

[Harry Knutz]

Thanks, That was a reamer I was looking at from them, But If I can't find suitable brass, It's a no go. I just need a parent case or a brass cartridge it can be formed from, Thanks my friend, Hairy

 

[Eric Musgrove]

I will ask the dumb question, if its named .30-06 Stief then wouldn't the parent case be a .30-06, Never mind I see it is a rimmed version of it.....
Decided to keep looking not sure if this site is legit or not, but they say they have some but wow that price! https://www.strobl.cz/en/brass-shm-30-06-r-stief_p10277

 

[Harry Knutz]

It is a rimmed cartridge. So it's a 30-06 Rimmed and shortened.

 

[Eric Musgrove]

It is a rimmed cartridge. So it's a 30-06 Rimmed and shortened.

Did you see my edit?

 

[Harry Knutz]

Not until now, Yeah 2.75 a piece! Ouch And it's in the Czech Republic.

 

[Harry Knutz]

However I do believe they are Legit, They have been around quite awhile and generally have hard to find dies and such.

 

[Eric Musgrove]

However I do believe they are Legit, They have been around quite awhile and generally have hard to find dies and such.

Sounds like an expensive project all the way around. Maybe Starline has some with the correct case head dimension you can form. They make strait wall cases for this purpose.

 

[8x68s]

According to the late Ken Howell in his book "Designing & Forming Custom Cartridges", a 30-06 rimmed can be formed from 400-350 nitro express brass. Instructions are: "Trim 400-350 NE brass to 2,5" and resize full length in a 30-06 sizer die. Fire form with inert filler. Trim to 2.49" and deburr." I am assuming the Steif version is a variation on this.

 

[Harry Knutz]

Thank you for the drawing, The 7x65R is what I had hoped would work, As I have quite a bit of it, But the dimensions are too small as far as rim diameter and head diameter. Do you have that book? Or did you find that info online?

 

[Harry Knutz]

Unfortunately, The 400-350 brass is around $6.00 each.

 

[Harry Knutz]

Sounds like an expensive project all the way around. Maybe Starline has some with the correct case head dimension you can form. They make strait wall cases for this purpose.

You are probably right, The rifles I have built for rimmed cartridges are most likely worthless to anybody but myself, but I sure enjoy them.