I was hunting west of Augusta , MT. We were on the front hoping for cold and snow to push some elk out. 55 degrees. Nice camping trip in November. My friend and I got bored one afternoon. Lots of rocks across the canyon. We ranged a rock at 605 yards. I knew the post of my leupold duplex was right for 4 feet at 600. Custom 300 weatherby doing 3150 with a 200 nosler partition. Held and whack. Later I tried my 338 win with 250,s. It was like shooting a 45/70 compared to the 300. So basically the same as an 06 with a 200. By the way a 3x9 leupold. I have a friend who is an outfitter at Augusta. Runs 80 to 90 hunters a year. They all show up with big guns and dial scopes. He says the majority can,t hit the inside of a barn. Many think they can spend money and cover up not being a rifleman. Doesn,t work that way. Trigger time.