6.5 Creedmor- the Holy Grail?

FIGJAM said:

If I judged a cartridges effectiveness to bring down an animal with 1 shot, based on experiences that I have had with different hunting partners, I wouldn't be able to hunt with a 338 Rum, 300 Rum, 338 wm or 300 win mag...lol. That .243 and .270 are awesome deer guns...they don't shoot themselves though.

Click to expand...

Rifles shoot differently for different people.

I finally was able to reload some Harnady and Winchester brass with 48gr of RL 26 behind 143 gr eld x. My ten shot average was 2976 fps using a Labradar that equals to 1200 flbs at 825 yards, more then enough to kill a elk.

That is smoking out of that little case. SD on that?

farmboykjb5.9 said:

Yup and the creedmor will be long gone

Click to expand...

I wouldn't count on that.

wolff said:

I finally was able to reload some Harnady and Winchester brass with 48gr of RL 26 behind 143 gr eld x. My ten shot average was 2976 fps using a Labradar that equals to 1200 flbs at 825 yards, more then enough to kill a elk.

Click to expand...

What cartridge and OAL?

wolff said:

I finally was able to reload some Harnady and Winchester brass with 48gr of RL 26 behind 143 gr eld x. My ten shot average was 2976 fps using a Labradar that equals to 1200 flbs at 825 yards, more then enough to kill a elk.

Click to expand...

That would have to be one heck of a compressed load. 45gr of RL26 behind a 129gr Interbond in the .260 loaded to mag length was so compressed for me that it was walking bullets back out of the case. The .260 has slightly greater case capacity over the CM as well at 53.5gr/H20.

In the CM with Hornady brass, I can load 48 gr. RL26 and 143 ELD-X just barely compressed. I load them .015 off the lands. That's about as far off the lands I can go though. Velocity out of a 24" barrel was 2875. Fits in a Savage 3" short action mag.

26Reload said:

Would like to know distances and bullet selections....
Obviously the rifle shoots..as many talk it up....but without doubt failure occurs when people think it's perfect.....
Popping the lungs of those bulls with any rifle should have had them really dead close to point of contact....trying to bust shoulders with the .264 bullets...not a wise choice at all...

Click to expand...

Well said. Popping the lungs of even large bulls is not difficult. Elk are tough in many ways, but I've yet to see one survive a double lung shot even with a 243.

69precision said:

Well said. Popping the lungs of even large bulls is not difficult. Elk are tough in many ways, but I've yet to see one survive a double lung shot even with a 243.

Click to expand...

I've seen one survive a center lung hit for nearly a mile before staggering and tipping over. This ground was covered at a walk jog pace with the rest of the herd. Took at least 10 min.

A bullet that performs poorly will more than likely give poor results. A lack of permanent wound channel bleeds slowly.

I shot a bull a few years ago that appeared to have takenan antler through his lungs. He was pretty much healed up other than large amounts of infection. His feet were over grown due to inactivity.

SD = 9.02
OAL =2.890
0.005 off Lands
Winchester Brass slight compression
Hornady Brass no compression
Factory Savage 12FV 26 barrel 1-8 twist

My rifle last 3 diet of serial 697 , my bother has same rifle last 3 of serial 700 his average with same load 2954.

Well i built a 6.5cm last winter for a buddy who then fell on hard times and couldn't pay for it. I ended up using it for awhile this fall. I shot it 5 times at 5 animals (not counting testing).

Results: 3 coyote between 100 and 400 yds, one shot each.

One mule deer buck that was previously wounded.

And finally a 6x7 bull elk at 334.

Each animal was a bang/flop. I used 147 eld m hand loads i cooked up for accuracy testing. (The elk was an unplanned opportunity).

So I'm 100% success rate with a 6.5cm. BUT I still think it leaves no room for error. Bullet choice is critical and must change with shot distance.

The creed has excellent external ballistics but the terminal ballistics are not that good for its designed application.

Sledhead406 said:

Well i built a 6.5cm last winter for a buddy who then fell on hard times and couldn't pay for it. I ended up using it for awhile this fall. I shot it 5 times at 5 animals (not counting testing).

Results: 3 coyote between 100 and 400 yds, one shot each.

One mule deer buck that was previously wounded.

And finally a 6x7 bull elk at 334.

Each animal was a bang/flop. I used 147 eld m hand loads i cooked up for accuracy testing. (The elk was an unplanned opportunity).

So I'm 100% success rate with a 6.5cm. BUT I still think it leaves no room for error. Bullet choice is critical and must change with shot distance.

The creed has excellent external ballistics but the terminal ballistics are not that good for its designed application.

Click to expand...

What's its designed application?

This is a DEAD Horse beaten to a bloody friggen pulp...Give it a break!
At some point it becomes so redundant...round and round with nothing new added!