NEW 6.5 WIN. LONG RANGE MAGNUM!!!

Belts are NOT needed,.. gimme the .270 WSM ! It's built on, the beltless, thick, strong,.. .404 Jeffery case ! Pushing the 140's at 3,150 -3,200+ FPS ! Kills Elk like Lightning out, to at least, 1,500 yards,.. almost as far as, the 6.5 needmore !

jmcmath said:

Has Nosler brass gotten better? I feel like i remembered when I was first building my rifle considering 28N and just hearing all about how soft Nosler brass was and how it was a pain.

Maybe now that Lapua owns Berger we could get a "6.5 Lapua tactical" That is just a 264 win mag and load it up with 120 grainers and say it matches the nosler just like the nonsense that 33 nosler is a 338 L equal

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I've been using Nosler brass since around 2013, and no issues here... I kept hearing all the same crap about "soft brass", etc... But I've had nothing but positive experiences with it. I use it in 7mmRM, 7mm STW, .300 Ackley (Weatherby), and have used some in a buddy's .300WM with no issues.

Idaho Lefty said:

Belts are NOT needed,.. gimme the .270 WSM ! It's built on, the beltless, thick, strong,.. .404 Jeffery case ! Pushing the 140's at 3,150 -3,200+ FPS ! Kills Elk like Lightning out, to at least, 1,500 yards,.. almost as far as, the 6.5 needmore !

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The .270 Weatherby has been doing the same thing since 1943... But faster. And it has a belt, and fits in a standard magnum long action.

And I'm not a .270 fan...In any cartridge.

MudRunner2005 said:

You don't add a belt to a non-belted cartridge.

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Weatherby did, and for nothing more than asthetics ala 240 & 224 Weatherby "Magnums". Not disagreeing with anything you've stated, just pointing out that people sometimes do stupid things because they **** well feel like it.

Idaho Lefty said:

Belts are NOT needed,.. gimme the .270 WSM !

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Just think, would half of these new 6.5 cartridges be around if Winchester had also put out the "264 WSM" and put a proper twist in it?

My 270 Wby pushes 140 SSTs in the low 3500fps w/o any load development from a 28" barrel.

I have so much 270Wby brass that I necked it down to a "6.5" and getting an accuracy node close to 3400fps with the 150gr Sierra Match King. 28" barrel...

So with my new/old 6.5 x 257 Wby mag...I can also be the "cool kid" with a new/old 6.5 Mag....

I'd be shooting the 7 WSM if, it had, a longer "Neck" so yes, a 6.5 WSM would be great,.. don't they already have, a "Wildcat" 6.5 WSM available ? If I ever burn out, my .270 WSM barrel, I'll build, a 7mm-.270 WSM, the Canadian's are working on, this Cart for 1,000 yard Comp. and finding it to be VERY, good !

Meh, it's an old outdated cartridge, no one in their right mind would take that old thing on a hunt

I love when kids get jacked about something and start explaining what happened. That was a cool video

YUP, the .264 WM is a "Killer" no doubt ! My Dad LOVED his and made some great, long shots on,. Deer / Antelope ( pre Range finder Days, were about, 300-450 yards !). He used the .30-06 with, 150 Part's, to get a couple of, Elk and punched thru them, at 200+ yards.

Longtooth32 said:

My 270 Wby pushes 140 SSTs in the low 3500fps w/o any load development from a 28" barrel.

I have so much 270Wby brass that I necked it down to a "6.5" and getting an accuracy node close to 3400fps with the 150gr Sierra Match King. 28" barrel...

So with my new/old 6.5 x 257 Wby mag...I can also be the "cool kid" with a new/old 6.5 Mag....

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Glad, I'm not buying your Barrels ! That's FAST ! I Hunted with, a .270 Wby,. it too, killed well !

I knew this would spark some interest. So bullet points so far.
-it's not new and shiny
-people don't like belted cartridges
-old factory rifles didn't use a fast enough twist in their barrels.

I can agree with the first, it's not new and shiny.

Second.... Maybe I should start another thread on case design and reloading belted cases. YOU CAN STILL RESIZE AND HEADSPACE A BELTED CASE OFF THE SHOULDER... not sure if people are misinformed or don't know how to set up sizing dies.

Thirdly, I agree. Old rifles were not made to stbalize heavy for caliber bullets. I guess my comment about the old rifle in the back of the safe, does limit the cartridge. So from this point on, let's talk about the caliber in an aftermarket barrel with the right twist and optimal freebore.

I personally don't own a factory rifle that I didn't immediately rebarrel and true the action... other than a 6mm creed ruger precision, a 50 cal hawkin muzzleloader, a wwII rifle, and an old remington 270

Badgerclaw said:

I personally don't own a factory rifle that I didn't immediately rebarrel and true the action... other than a 6mm creed ruger precision, a 50 cal hawkin muzzleloader, a wwII rifle, and an old remington 270

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LOL this cracked me up, likely because I could see myself saying it out loud. I don't own any, except these 4.

Everyone bagging on new cartridges...why? It's like bagging on new guns. More options are always great and if it gets people shooting and spending money in the gun sport industry then why not?!?!?!?! The only negative is when a cartridge does not take off and you are hard pressed to find factory ammo or brass. I have always wanted a 6.5 cartridge (specifically a 260 rem) but was scared off by the lack of factory ammo, lack of factory rifle (especially ones with a good twist for heavier bullets). Is the 6.5cm better than the 260 nope, likely even a touch worse as far as performance goes BUT rifle availability is way up for the 6.5cm and so is ammo availability compared to other 6.5 cartridges with similar performance so for this reason I am rebarreling a rifle into 6.5CM. Much easier to sell off a 6.5cm than a 260 in my neck of the woods and it is obvious the 6.5cm is here to stay. Just my two cents.