If you have trouble finding some let me know and I'll send you a box
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Old Rooster,
Hey, I use to buy a lot of Speer from LoLo Gun Shop 208 743 1031 in Lewiston Idaho you might contact them, they are neighbors of Speer in Lewiston. Good Luck Cheers
DMP25-06
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You can look online at craftholsters.com . They show to have several different styles available , belt carry , IWB , and shoulder holsters available , fit for optic-sight SW M&P 10mm .
Thats what I ended up ordering.I love it.
Highly recommend them.
Have you tried 3n37 in 10mm. I also use sihilouette, power pistol and be-86. But also depends on bullet weight. I'd have to check on hs-6. I've tried and used many powders for 10mm from 135-180gr. I only use 180's in carbines.
All sorts, I haven't nailed it down to just 1 yet.
Have tried Power Pistol,Blue Dot, Unique,AA#7 and AA#9 and I think 2400.Thats all I can remember right now.I used to shoot 10mm back in the mid 90's a lot and relied of Blue Dot mostly but my old notes are packed away in a box somewhere.
Have not tried 3n37 yet.Thanks for the powder selection.That gives me some ideas.
6.5x300 WBY
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Hi Skor 800 x. I have used a bunch for 10mm . Also long shot got a lot of use.
I load a lot of those 135 gr noslers at blistering speeds if I remember correctly in the 1600 fps range. It's a great bullet.
I load a lot of those 135 gr noslers at blistering speeds if I remember correctly in the 1600 fps range. It's a great bullet.
crkckr
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Unfortunately, a lot of the stuff we used to have available as reloaders, simply isn't anymore. 800x has been discontinued and most Speer products are now in the "unobtainium" column! I've been hoping to get my sweaty paws on some 10mm 165 gr Gold Dots for over 2 years now and haven't seen a single one for sale! I will admit, I fear that bullet was, like most other 165 gr bullets in 40 cal, designed for the 40 Short & Weak and may not be able to withstand full 10mm loads. The Hornady 155 and 180's work well but the 155 is severely limited in penetration! At least the jacket and core don't seperate, like the 9mm, 45 and 44 bullets do! BTW, the best source for Speer products these days is on the Speer website since they have taken to selling direct these days. Still, in going thru their products, most are listed as "currently unavailable." Personally, I think they've laid everyone but one guy off and he can only operate one machine at a time!
My carry ammo, for all of my handguns no matter what caliber, is the Underwood loading of the Lehigh Xtreme Defender bullets. In 10mm, that means I have a very small but precious stash of the 100gr XD bullet, which my Glock 29 shoots especially well but Lehigh is no longer making. In my Glock 40, I shoot the 115 gr. It is my opinion that the XD bullet is the best possible bullet anyone can get for SD/HD with a handgun, bar none! To top things off, while they are loud (but flash supressed) the recoil is extremely mild, while the velocities are sometimes hard to believe! These bullets have a round nose profile for feed reliability, are totally barrier blind and create wounds that out class every hollow point on the market. Unfortunately, while I have loaded for most of the bullets Lehigh makes in way of 10mm, I have been unable to match any of their factory velocities with available powders to reloaders (the only powders I have not tried are the VV powders which are pretty high priced around here!).
The only bullet that may (I say may because he hasn't finished development just yet) equal the Lehigh XD is Peter Pi jr.'s Defiant 10mm load. His other calibers come as close to the Lehigh's as any other bullet available, although his prices are downright scary! That should change as he ramps up production. I would not hesitate to carry any of his ammo line.
As a backup to the expensive Lehigh bullets/ammo (Lehigh is still making and selling ammo but you must go to the Wilson Combat website to find it! Other than they use plain brass cases instead of Underwoods nickel plated - both are Starline - the velocities are the same & costs similar) I much prefer to use Speer Gold Dots, but so far Speer hasn't sold anything other than the 200 gr GDHP that I'm aware of. Boo, hiss, Speer! Since I have not been able to find any other 165 gr. bullets that will withstand 10mm velocities I am forced into the 180 gr. XTP, which works ok, although they are not the most fun to shoot out of my G29. They're fine out of the G40, which seems to tame even the heaviest loads down to .45 ACP levels. Both of these pistols wear Holosun 508T series red dot sights, even though I recently had cataract surgery in both eyes and now can see without the glasses I've been wearing for for almost 60 years! But I still can't see the front sight clearly (my up close eyesight wasn't very good before the surgery but it's even worse now! I still need reading glasses but it's a small price to pay!) and I find I like the precision of the RDS over irons anyway, so the one thing I said I would never ever put on any of my guns (anything that takes a battery) are there to stay!
So far the best velocities I've been able to get without exceeding all the book numbers have been AA#9, BE-86, & Power Pistol (keep in mind I load mostly lighter weight bullets, with just a few 180's in the mix). The most disappointing powders have been Blue Dot and HS6 which have come in way under published velocity numbers, without far exceeding the published maximums. The use of magnum primers does help but they also play hob with the extreme spreads and standard deviation numbers. AA#9 seems to give the best velocities so far. I no longer shoot any plain lead bullets, except for the relatively small stash I have for 357 and 44 mags) and exclusively use Missouri Bullet Co.'s coated bullets. I hate lead bullets although I loved the price! I may yet sell my casting equipment!
While I have by no means forsaken my .45 ACP, the 10mm is my new love and I wish I'd of made the change 30 some years ago when Uncle Jeff said to. I could just never get the money together for a Delta Elite. I should have sacrificed more back then so I wouldn't be swimming in 45 brass and bullets while wishing I had more 10mm now! Ah well, better late than never, right?
Cheers,
crkckr
My carry ammo, for all of my handguns no matter what caliber, is the Underwood loading of the Lehigh Xtreme Defender bullets. In 10mm, that means I have a very small but precious stash of the 100gr XD bullet, which my Glock 29 shoots especially well but Lehigh is no longer making. In my Glock 40, I shoot the 115 gr. It is my opinion that the XD bullet is the best possible bullet anyone can get for SD/HD with a handgun, bar none! To top things off, while they are loud (but flash supressed) the recoil is extremely mild, while the velocities are sometimes hard to believe! These bullets have a round nose profile for feed reliability, are totally barrier blind and create wounds that out class every hollow point on the market. Unfortunately, while I have loaded for most of the bullets Lehigh makes in way of 10mm, I have been unable to match any of their factory velocities with available powders to reloaders (the only powders I have not tried are the VV powders which are pretty high priced around here!).
The only bullet that may (I say may because he hasn't finished development just yet) equal the Lehigh XD is Peter Pi jr.'s Defiant 10mm load. His other calibers come as close to the Lehigh's as any other bullet available, although his prices are downright scary! That should change as he ramps up production. I would not hesitate to carry any of his ammo line.
As a backup to the expensive Lehigh bullets/ammo (Lehigh is still making and selling ammo but you must go to the Wilson Combat website to find it! Other than they use plain brass cases instead of Underwoods nickel plated - both are Starline - the velocities are the same & costs similar) I much prefer to use Speer Gold Dots, but so far Speer hasn't sold anything other than the 200 gr GDHP that I'm aware of. Boo, hiss, Speer! Since I have not been able to find any other 165 gr. bullets that will withstand 10mm velocities I am forced into the 180 gr. XTP, which works ok, although they are not the most fun to shoot out of my G29. They're fine out of the G40, which seems to tame even the heaviest loads down to .45 ACP levels. Both of these pistols wear Holosun 508T series red dot sights, even though I recently had cataract surgery in both eyes and now can see without the glasses I've been wearing for for almost 60 years! But I still can't see the front sight clearly (my up close eyesight wasn't very good before the surgery but it's even worse now! I still need reading glasses but it's a small price to pay!) and I find I like the precision of the RDS over irons anyway, so the one thing I said I would never ever put on any of my guns (anything that takes a battery) are there to stay!
So far the best velocities I've been able to get without exceeding all the book numbers have been AA#9, BE-86, & Power Pistol (keep in mind I load mostly lighter weight bullets, with just a few 180's in the mix). The most disappointing powders have been Blue Dot and HS6 which have come in way under published velocity numbers, without far exceeding the published maximums. The use of magnum primers does help but they also play hob with the extreme spreads and standard deviation numbers. AA#9 seems to give the best velocities so far. I no longer shoot any plain lead bullets, except for the relatively small stash I have for 357 and 44 mags) and exclusively use Missouri Bullet Co.'s coated bullets. I hate lead bullets although I loved the price! I may yet sell my casting equipment!
While I have by no means forsaken my .45 ACP, the 10mm is my new love and I wish I'd of made the change 30 some years ago when Uncle Jeff said to. I could just never get the money together for a Delta Elite. I should have sacrificed more back then so I wouldn't be swimming in 45 brass and bullets while wishing I had more 10mm now! Ah well, better late than never, right?
Cheers,
crkckr
Are you running a supported aftermarket barrel or the original Glock factory?
I understand what Glock says about shooting lead from their polygonal rifled barrels. I've shot lead bullets from my Glock model 23 since the mid 90's to no ill effect. Like you said, I clean the gun after range sessions to ensure there was no build up. The guy who taught me how to cast bullets always said that the Glock could shoot them, however you needed to treat them like you treated the older Marlin rifles with their micro grooved barrels. You had to use an over sized bullet so it wouldn't skid down the barrel due to the rifling not fully engaging the bullet.
Nowadays I powder coat all my bullets so they are somewhat jacketed now. When I look down the barrels of my Glocks now they are clean as can be. Unless of course I am shooting Unique powder.
I used to shoot lead from my 629, but don't own it anymore. Now the lead is copper wrapped.
WYO300RUM
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Hodgdon Lil Gun.
The good thing about Lehigh Defense that have a load data library, can look up any of their bullets on ur phone. Match it to the cartridge ur loading, press view, and they have like 5 to 10 loads of various powders, listed for Min to Max and the fps.
