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Wyo37
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Interesting. Do you have any data on the discrepancy between bigger bullets vs smaller bullets? Maybe correlation between bullet construction, size, and permanent wound cavities? Oh and "energy".
What Caliber for 600yd Whitetail? (New rifle Build)
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Calvin45
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Obviously this only applies up to a point but to use an extreme example…the 204 ruger has a heck of a lot more energy than than original loadings for a 44-40 or .45 colt. While neither are good choices really I know without question which one I'd want if
I had to pick from these options to defend myself from a charging bear or wild boar in a situation where you absolutely could not be sure you'd hit the exact right spot.
But you're comment on bullet construction is spot on. I've also seen deer sized game go for a loooooong run when hit with 180 grain premiums from a .30-06 (Have a friend that insists on one load for everything, 180 tsx - on double lung deer hits that's slooow) that just punched a hole basically and pile up real fast from simple soft points from a .243.
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Calvin45
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Not sure I follow…
Don't know if there is a "rule" here.
I fully acknowledged the 204 example is extreme. But I would just as easily move from some extremes and point out that the .30-378 is higher energy than my .358 Norma and for dangerous game I'd put all the chips down on the .358 to take care of business every time. Bigger bullets matter, and saying "up to a point" is acknowledging both the "exception" and the "rule", not pretending one doesn't exist. Try harder please
All in good humour, no disrespect intended. I'm sure we're actually on the same page haha
I've always had a rule of thumb. Dangerous game requires bigger bullets. They tend to make larger holes. And penatrate farther. I really dont want to take a chance on not stopping a man eater/killer with not enough bullet. No way! Many years ago, I witnessed a Peace Corps guy standing a little too close to the water and a 14 foot croc got him. The guards that were with him shot the croc with a 30.06 10 times within 50 ft but had no effect on the croc. A group of known big game hunters at the time (my dads boss was one them) were asked to try to get the offending croc. 4 days later, they got lucky and got him. They gutted the croc and found the guys parts inside. Wicked! Lessons learned. Personally, my smallest dangerous game bullet is my 50+ year old mod 70 375 HH. Most of my somewhat "distance shots" use one of the more higher bc bullets. Such as 260, 270, 30, etc...By the way 99 percent of my "distance shots" were from 300 yds or less. Now I know lots of folks take much longer shots. Sometimes you have to. The thing I am most concerned about is 3 things. Energy and penetration. Both are the recipe for sucess without having to track the game much (< 100yds to me) and doing a drt on dangerous game. The most important thing to me is not allowing the game to suffer. Crocs aside.Not sure I follow…
Don't know if there is a "rule" here.
I fully acknowledged the 204 example is extreme. But I would just as easily move from some extremes and point out that the .30-378 is higher energy than my .358 Norma and for dangerous game I'd put all the chips down on the .358 to take care of business every time. Bigger bullets matter, and saying "up to a point" is acknowledging both the "exception" and the "rule", not pretending one doesn't exist. Try harder please
All in good humour, no disrespect intended. I'm sure we're actually on the same page haha
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what's the 3rd?
The second to last sentence!
Not allowing the game to suffer. Crocks aside.
Calvin45
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That's adorable. Can you tell me what "advice" I gave exactly? Cuz I'm not sure i gave any but if I have and it's poor I'll gladly recant.
Calvin45
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Nah. Sorry if I've actually done something to hurt your feelings, and I'm legit still wondering what on earth I advised anyone to do here that was so upsetting to you. But either way, I'm stickin around and legit hope you are too. No hostility on my end, got no problem with you and will happily resolve any you might have with me. We are after all strangers on the internet and I suppose there's no winners or losers in arguments of this nature, just two people who look kinda silly.
I do hope you can clarify where I've attempted to lead anyone astray with bad advice in a sincere manner but if not it's no skin off my back. All the best man.
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Calvin45
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I am indeed confused at this point. A touch amused, you're making me chuckle here. Perhaps because I'm so deluded. What's going on here man? Has @jessej got too much of his beloved RUM into ya? Honestly don't understand the problem. But I don't have a problem, you clearly do, and that's okay.
If there's a question of my use of the word legit I'm not using it to describe myself but rather the legitimacy (hence "legit") of my curiosity. It's not insincere, I'm earnestly inquiring as to the nature of my transgression here and my apologies if that was insufficiently articulated or somehow construed as self-aggrandizing.
You decide if this pointless dialogue need proceed further.
Have a nice day.
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Calvin45
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Yeah but what cartridge family is "BACON" an acronym for?
Big A$s Cartridge Of Nantucket? (No need to come up with a song)
Says the 1day old member trying cause trouble. Quit being a …… get the thread back on track and quit derailing the OPs thread!
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