Arken SH-4 Gen II 6-24x50
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JustMe2
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That's insulting. You for one, talk adnausium about someone's reloading problem or accuracy problem or which rifle/scope is the best over and over and over again. This happens to be my problem so this is inappropriate and insulting.
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I'd argue that your problem is more in your mind than anything else.
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For one the "optical zero" increments in the scope dial post, or whatever you want to call it, is just a guide. That's fairly well understood. It really doesn't matter because your zero is your zero wherever it ends up on the post increments. Once you get your zero point of aim/ point of impact then you just set your dial to zero and set your zero stop if you have one. It's that simple.
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And I don't say what rifle, scope or whatever is "the best" lol. Calling anything "the best" is over simplistic. There isn't anything that is "the best".
Just started reading this thread, came across your first pic of the turrets, and thought "what's the problem, here?".
A "zero stop" is nothing more than a user-definable, positive turret "stop" that allows the user to "stop" the turret rotation at any point they like. The "0" on the turret body simply represents a point close to the center of the erector's range of travel.
Having a non-adjustable zero stop, that stopped the turret at center of erector travel would be useless- or worse. As I believe was mentioned, this is incompatible with down-angle mounts, and wouldn't serve any practical purpose.
It allows for quick adjustments without needing to do math in your head- or even remember the range to which it was last set.
Just spin back to the zero stop, come up the needed number of clicks for the range you're dialing. Especially for competition shooters where time is critical, and it's easy to lose track of the number of turret revolutions. If you're a casual target shooter just banging away at a couple of known distances this isn't a particularly big deal. If you're engaging steel from 200 out to 1200 or more in a timed competition it's a different animal.
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I might have agreed with you, however, I talked to my buddy today and he looked at his 2 Arken scopes, one an EP4 4-16 and the other an EP5 5-25. Both of his turrets touch the tube and are only labeled 1 & 2 (no 0 mark) and can only be turned upwards from the implied zero, can't be turned lower than the implied 0 mark. He turned his turrets all the way up and down to check for the numbers. Mine and 338s scopes are labeled 2, 1, 0, 1, 2 and can be turned up and also down from the zero mark. Evidently, Arken has changed their design or something else is going on. Do you own an Arken so you can contribute with some factual information and not a guess? Still no excuse for Arken's lack of customer service. My buddy's look like this from the Arken website. Notice this turret is almost all the way down touching the tube and does not look like 338s turret.
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Beat me to it. I don't own one but can tell from the front or back f the scope.
It's just the facts! I really don't want to offend anyone ever, but I'm sure I do more than I realize.
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You seem to be stuck on the "0" mark on the turret post. Try thinking of it as nothing more as a guideline. It doesn't matter where you end up on the post. Just make a note of it. But since the model you used to have had a zero stop none of this matters. You simply dial back to the zero stop once set and then dial your next comeup.
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I wouldn't even want or try to get my actual zero to match the "0" on the turret post. I'd use the appropriate moa rail to get the most elevation out of the scope I could. That is if we're mounting this on a long range rifle. Another thing to point out is rifle receiver's dimensions can vary quite a bit. My Remington PSS shoots very well. But it's exterior dimensions are off so I lose about 7 moa right off the bat. So if I mounted that Arkin you returned the scope's zero would be 7 moa above the zero mark on the post. At no fault of Arkin.
As mentioned earlier that is simply a starting point ,all that matters is your rifle zero. unless you were shooting more elevation than one turn of the dial it can be helpful to know which rotation you are on ,but you can still go back to your zero which is set by the zero stop and count elevation from there basically in my New York accent
(forget about it) !
(forget about it) !
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