New rifle...... Flinching

[HunterMann]

2000 ft. pounds at 1000 yards ?
Dinosaurs beware of this guy...

 

[WYO300RUM]

I would of put a good brake on your 300 RUM and shot 200 to 215 gr. Bullets . My 300 RUM with Berger 215's recoils like a 308. The brake has side and top ports. They aren't angled back far and I don't get blast. I have a Simms limbsaver recoil pad also. Heavier rifle helps a lot.

 

[StumpGrinder]

The rifle doesn't kick bad with the brake. And I'm liking the 2000 + ft lbs of kinetic energy at 1000 yards.

Here is an exercise I have used many times to help people stop flinching. While at the range have someone else load your rifle. Sometimes the will actually load it and sometimes not. You won't know which. If you have developed flinch you probably have it on whatever you shoot so shoot something cheap to start.

 

[xsn10s]

I would of put a good brake on your 300 RUM and shot 200 to 215 gr. Bullets . My 300 RUM with Berger 215's recoils like a 308. The brake has side and top ports. They aren't angled back far and I don't get blast. I have a Simms limbsaver recoil pad also. Heavier rifle helps a lot.

If a 300 RUM pushed a 215 Berger 2950 fps, which I'm sure it could, at my altitude of 2200 ft elevation you'd have over 1500 ft/lbs energy at 1000 yards. My buddy's Rem 700 LR 300 WM with a 208 eldm got to 2880 fps on our first load. Accuracy was so good we left it alone. It's a stock rifle and the recoil was mild.

 

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[WYO300RUM]

If a 300 RUM pushed a 215 Berger 2950 fps, which I'm sure it could, at my altitude of 2200 ft elevation you'd have over 1500 ft/lbs energy at 1000 yards. My buddy's Rem 700 LR 300 WM with a 208 eldm got to 2880 fps on our first load. Accuracy was so good we left it alone. It's a stock rifle and the recoil was mild.

Was it braked ?
I have a 28 in. Bartlien varmit contour barrel on it . I can't look at load data now but I'm using N570 , Fed 215 mag match , ADG/GunWerks brass. I don't remember exact fps but with starting at 92 grs. It was something like 3022 fps.. That load shot great. I went up to 95.0 grains and broke 3100 at 94.0 grs.. 94.0 shot best. 5 shots .510 in.

 

[xsn10s]

No brake, just a factory rem 700 LR in 300 WM. We couldn't get any H1000 so loaded some Ramshot Magnum. Shot great with no pressure signs at 2880 fps. We could of loaded it for speed but it shot accurately and this is his first rifle larger than a 270 Win. So he'll work his way up. Easier to get used to a rifle with less recoil than trying to fix flinch.

 

[Chas1]

I recently put a Weatherby Accubrake on a Weatherby 30-06 to lesson recoil and lessen any possible flinch. Now some will say a 30-06 isn't much recoil but when shooting for smallest possible groups recoil for some is a no no, so to each their own and my groups instantly went form 3/4" to 1/4". on the other end of the spectrum I have a 338 Allen Xpress launching 300gr bullets under 106grs of RL33 and I haven't and wouldn't even think about pulling the trigger without it's muzzle brake...having said that this rifle took some time getting use too not because of recoil but just the sheer size had me anticipating recoil (all in my head) cause it actually recoils about like a 243. Point is after a while that anticipation went away. A 338-378 is pretty big so maybe your dealing with the anticipation but I think in time with enough firings it will fade. I know it did for me.

 

[338weatherby]

Muzzlebrakes are horrible, the concussion alone can give you headache after multiple shots. None of my guns have one on the them, except for the 50 bmg of course. Do yourself a favor and just buy a suppressor, guaranteed your flinch will be gone. They are a dream to shoot with compared to the alternative...

I used to shoot 20-40 rounds per session with my 338/378. I found I did better without the brake. The last time I shot it with the brake, I left the range with horrible headache. The concussion up the nose and a wallup in the face. I feel there are better brakes then the stock Weatherby one. I have since sold that rifle and have a TBAC 338 Ultra on order for my new 338LM improved.

 

[WYO300RUM]

No brake, just a factory rem 700 LR in 300 WM. We couldn't get any H1000 so loaded some Ramshot Magnum. Shot great with no pressure signs at 2880 fps. We could of loaded it for speed but it shot accurately and this is his first rifle larger than a 270 Win. So he'll work his way up. Easier to get used to a rifle with less recoil than trying to fix flinch.

For sure

 

[cantfixstupid]

I have 98B Barret 338 Lapua that I take to the range occasionally and I forewarn any neighbors in the stalls next to me that they should take a couple of notches up on their ball caps. The brake on that beast will blow your hat off 2 stalls away, it's funny but not funny. It kicks about like a 20 gauge shotgun shooting 250 grain Sierras.

 

[FEENIX]

My question is: why would you take a shot at any animal at 1000 yards. Stalk in or call it to you and make an accurate shot at under 400 yards. The risk at 1000 yards is a wounded animal that can suffer for days. There is nothing macho in that.
As for recoil, yes the noise level of a brake can definitely cause flinching. You probably don't want it on when hunting because you are not going feel any recoil when you take the shot.

Rule #1!

 

[DWier]

I was thinking the same thing. Maybe even a motorcycle helmet with a face shield.

Why not!! They use them to ride bicycles and tricycles!!

 

[DWier]

I used to flinch and have made a lot of effort to stop, Like Critter said, have someone load a fired case in with the mix to make you aware of it. Doubling the ear pro helps, dry firing helps tons. I shoot a .204 Ruger and 7mm Rem mag. I like to start with the .204 then switch to the 7mm it takes the edge off from expecting the recoil. Having a good fitted stock helps. Keep your scope as far from your face as you can (depending on eye relief) relax and squeeze the trigger like you have no idea when its going to fire. DONT drink COFFEE or energy drinks before shooting... i wasted a trip to the range one day because of that. everytime my heart would beat i would shake the gun.

I don't flinch but still close my eyes when I fire. I havent figured out how to stop that.... been thinging about drinking a single beer to relax me before I shoot. (only at my personal range)

Won't work. I've tried it. I don't flinch but I blink when the shot goes off. Only time I've ever seen the shot hit was with my Cadex 338 Lapua at 800m and only because my blink was faster than normal. I have a brake that makes recoil feel somewhere between 6.5cm (with brake) and 270win ( with brake). Regarding loudness, I don't know because I always wear hearing protection at the range.